n00b here...couple questions
 

i'm planning on getting an RX-7 as an only vehicle...i'm willing to do all work myself, and it'll be a DD (DUH) so i was wondering, would it be smart to have 2 engines? like keep one in storage or something, then when one blows, i'll rebuild the other one (maybe myself? is it hard?) and also maybe do some reliability mods so it won't have as many problems? also, is it possible to have a BPU '7 as a DD?

if you have the funds for two engines, by all means, do it. see the FAQ STICKY at the top of the 3rd gen forum for info on reliability mods. call me n00b too, but whats a BPU?

basic performance upgrades

BPU = Basic Performance Upgrades...i learned that from dealing with supras (my other dream car) do they use that terminology with RX-7's?

EDIT: not meant to be sarcastic

im in the process of rebuildig my first 13b so many ill let u know how it goes... its a '94

Nope, over here in the rotary world, we never really use the term bpu. And if it is ever used, its usually used to describe supras and what not.

rx-seven teen, where in the east bay are you located?

so how do you describe your car then? doesen't saying BPU or BPU+ or BPU++ or BPU+++ or APU make it easier so tell people a range of what kinda numbers you're running??

(N00B = me...lol)

I live in Orinda...my cousins live in Pleasanton...funny

here's a farfetched thought...instead of 2 engines, why not have 2 RX-7s to alternate? :bigthumb:

people would think i'm too showoffy...which i am...but i don't want to be a dickhead or have people think that i think i'm cool because i have 2 cars, etc...so one is fine for now...besides, i'll have money to get mods & make it reliable

Why not just have....an rx7, then something like an integra that's good on gas and reliable?

Doesn't the RX-7 get like almost 20mpg? You guys talk about the fuel mileage like its a Yukon or something. I can't really think of any twin-turbo cars that get over 20mpg highway. Hell my 2.slow Golf gets 23. :(

A decently running FD gets around 17 to 18 mpg, usually. Thats if its running somewhat decent. However, if it's running very very poorly, it gets around 12-13.

Many people on the forum dont get great gas mileage, so they get a daily beater, with good gas mileage. Daily driving an FD isn't that bad to do, as long as you maintain it extremely well. The biggest drawback is gas prices, because you'll go through gas faster than anything.

check this thread out
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=gas+mileage

You know, i'm not sure what we generally say here. I mean, most of the people on the forum just say what mods their running and what numbers they put out, straight forward. The BPU stuff, even though widely used in the supra world, never made it over here.

Nor the VW, 240sx or Porsche world. This guy is the first I've heard of it.

Wouldn't any savings for a daily-beater be lost becasue of its purchase and insurance cost? FIgure you save $40 a week on gas, and you paid 3,500 for the car and 800 a year to insure it. :wiggle:

No one should use the term " BPU "
its copyrighted by the SupraStore.com aka Elitest Boats :-x

Most of the time, putting a beater car (something like a 4-door) as your primary vehicle with the sports car as the secondary, will drop your insurance payments down lower than just having a single sports car on the policy (especially if you are under 25).

shouldn't you be worried about being of legal driving age first, and getting your license, before what car you are going to get/engines/being "showoffy"??

well my 7 gets great gas mileage, it gets around 16-20 usually in the higher part of that range and you could call my 7 bpu+ if that is how you like to talk mods, i have always wanted a supra as well so i know all that stuff

I went this route
 

I did this, but then found I couldn't leave the stock one allone and it was too expensive to mod two of these things ! ! !

lol hah 4 real. this kid needs to stop worrying bout rx7s and supras and just try to start drive first. geting a third gen as your first car is not a smart move .. you might make friends with a wall.

I had to steal Rynberg's "profile skimming" thunder for once :D

this kid is 15. nuff said.

Let him dream (How do we know how old he really is?). I dreamed about getting an FD for 4 years before I finally bought one. Granted, its not my first car, and I did lots of research...

I say go supra. Much easier to mess with, those engines take a lot of abuse, and you wont have to be nervously staring at you temp guage on a hot day or when you're running it hard (plus I wont cry if you crash it ) :bigthumb:

Not that I wouldnt be sad, the supra is a nice car. They can get in the range of 450 hp and remain completely street legal. (my cousin has one like this)

Unless mom and dad are helping, or he is pushing narcs, he probably can barely afford the car and upkeep of a FD....let alone $25,000+ just for the Supra itself.

Beat me to it. :)

You shouldn't be one to speak either.

im 18 and my first car was an n/a fc that i got when i was 15. ive been around rotaries for quite some time now. my dad and uncles used to race rx2's and shit back when i was like 3 for like 4 years or so. after the fc i got a 325i and after about a year driving that i finally got the fd. K THX

Exactly. This is why the RX-7 is "cheap". The RX-7 has very high insurance and upkeep costs. Supra has more managible insurance and very low up keep cost. The savings are simply transfered to the price of the vehicle.

so...what car should i get? VR4 or n/a supra (TT's are going for 30k-50k for a good one)

EDIT: i'll have 15K AT MOST

I dunno, perhaps a "normal" car?? Sure, everyone wants to be cool with their first new car but lets face it, you are going to do stupid stuff and make mistakes (even just general mistakes from being a new driver). Don't destroy a Supra/RX7/VR4 just because you must have a certain car. In addition, $15k at most and you were initially talkign about a decent FD and having a SPARE ENGINE on the side. :rolleyes: Come on bud, now you know why us older folks get tired of the "kids" on here.

Go buy a nice used Civic that is a couple years old, or maybe an FC, or hell, I had 2 Grand Am GT's..they are a nice car for a young kid and you can find 01-03's for cheap now (and they can be a helluva lot faster than a standard upgraded Civic for the same modification cost...$12k would get you a low 14 sec car).

I had a vauxhall nova for a first car, that developed to a 300bhp 700kg daily driver (Damn fast, but a little tin can and FWD so not great handling)

next was an Audi A3 quattro i had for about 3 months, 4wd, 200bhp and about 1400kgs i think. This was too boring and uninspiring to drive, so i got rid of it for the FD.

I know FDs dont make good DD's, and mine is about to go i think, but i have other cars available should the owrst happen.

what about a 2000+ Trans Am?

or how about a miata? good gas mileage, light, nimble, rwd, 5 speed. sure, it's a "chick" car, but you can get a perfect 1g miata for like 3k.

they have a REALLY small interior...and i need room

How about you're missing the point.... You don't NEED that much car!! Not to mention the insurance would kill you anyway, and it would be hard to find a 2000+ T/A in your price range too.

There is nothing wrong with having a normal car as your first ride....it's called REALITY and COMMON SENSE.

normal cars suck :(

your being a typical teenage kid. Impatient, selfish, needs to be spoiled.

OK, Bob has tried to relay his piece of life advise. It's up to others from here on out....

If you looking for a fast car to tinker with, get a 1st gen dsm.

ok...whatever, typical teenager...but bob was basicly saying it was ok to get an FD...i mean a 300hp in a bad handling car? not only is an FD a GREAT handling car (or so i've heard...haven't driven one) but it has slightly less HP (i have no idea how much 700 kg is...maybe that's also a factor) so to me, he's saying "yeah, why not, my first car was a vauxhall nova" or at least that's how i took it

Even more so if you like rust and a shitty design. I own a 2nd Gen GTS. The theory is great, the design is crap, the exictution was crap the result is crap. They rust fast, are poorly designed, and are made of very very shotty materals and labor.

UHm...my name is Bob.


Corbic...tell us how you really feel about DSM.

Stop being an idiot like seriouly if he wants an FD and hes got the cash for it let him get one. If he crashes and kills himself, well w/e his loss. lol. No need to get pissed off at somebody jsut because they got the cash to get a fast car :p I'm 17 and I'm still driving my moms Acura 1.6EL. 110 HP of pure slow shit. Total complete POS... hopesully after uni I'll be able to afford something nicer like an FD or whatever. Monkey if you can afford the FD and you realize that this car requires shitloads of work (and shitloads of cash) to keep it running then by all means get one.

ROFL....i thought you were talking about bobfish

Hey, it means one less FD :(. They're becoming more and more rare.

Anyways, if this is going to be your first car I would also advise against such a fast car. When you're starting out you are GOING to make mistakes, and with a rwd car, especially a powerful one like the FD or supra, it's very easy to lose control. A new driver will overcorrect when they are nervous in a "situation". Overcorrection in a normal car like a civic or a integra will cause understeer (the car will go in a straight line.) Overcorrection in a rwd car will cause you to fishtail, or spin out. Far more dangerous.

Besides, once you get a handle on the car, there are mods for these "normal" cars as well. You can slowly build up your understanding of cars and then you'll be ready for the FD.

I know you arent going to listen to me, I wouldnt if I were in your situation, which I was. My parents bought me an s40 (volvo), when I initially wanted a integra type r (back before I knew the handling differences between fwd and rwd). Anyways. I gather from what you were saying about you having "15k at most" makes me think that 15k is the budget your parents MIGHT give you? Is this incorrect? Anyways, be careful. If you're buying it on your own, or your parents are buying it for you and they dont care what you get, and you are set on the FD, make sure to read up on the reliability of these things.

The car is a dream, as I said in a previous post. Also, if you can afford to keep a spare engine, and have the know how, its prolly a good idea. Just dont blow two engines :bigthumb:

i'm hoping to have 5 or 6k saved up, and get the rest form my parents...but my dad just gave me a better idea (better for me that is) instead of buying me my first car (i'd get it myself) he would buy me my second, which could be any car of my choice...basicly a 1997 Toyota Supra TT 6-Speed (I.E. my absolute dream car and year) and free insurance...everything, all i would need to pay is gas and maintenance (and mods) provided i get good grades, participate in activities, and get into a good college...i'll get the car that summer or maybe earlier if i play my cards right...i want to be seen in it at least once since i may never see some people again, lol...so yeah, i'm going that route...guess it's a smarter way to go anyway :D

Wow.

Not be a hater or anything, but I have a similiar finacially capible family, with a twist. My father is dead set against helping me in anything. Senior year I got $1,000 for my first car, sweat 16, got a job... so forth. Long story short I'm 21 now, working 30 hours a week paying for college, car, apartment, and I wouldnt have it any other way.

If my father was to turn around and offer me an Evo, I would turn him down. Because excepting hand outs simply turn my stomach. I would take that money of yours and either buy the FD with a loan, (owing money teaches disapline) or get a roacking GS-R, FC, S13 ect. Plenty of great cars. Then you take that money your parents would have wasted on you and use it for school, appartment, future problems.. so forth.

it's not a hand-out...it's incentive

You need "incentive" to do good in school? Right there it the problem. Here I am busting my ass to pay for school, cause I WANT TO BE IN SCHOOL. A little ironic no? I work to go to school, you have to be brided to go to shcool.

:wiggle:

yup