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Old 12-17-12, 07:54 AM
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Sorry for all of the issues. This is a very nice build and I hope you get it straightened out.

I'd agree on the first startup. Sounds very rough there as well. Thought it was a PP engine.

My advice to you, pending no success with the ATF trick, is to take the engine/car to Jesus Padilla at Kilo Racing in St. Cloud FL. His telephone number is 407.810.8123. He's the best engine guy and tuner in FL, is very reasonable, and has fixed a number of engines built and tuned by the "other tuner" I think you used, especially if you went to Rolo's shop. If you know Bewtew and his former tuner then you know who I am talking about. Jesus can diagnose this quickly and have you back on the road in no time. I'd also highly recommend him to do the tuning on your car in the future. He saved my 3 rotor project - "Jesus Saves"
Old 12-17-12, 08:05 AM
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Yeah I think something might have gotten in your motor, and damaged some internal engine parts which will cause the low compression, that's the only thing it could be, rotaries don't just fail for no reason.
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Originally Posted by David Hayes
Sorry for all of the issues. This is a very nice build and I hope you get it straightened out.

I'd agree on the first startup. Sounds very rough there as well. Thought it was a PP engine.

My advice to you, pending no success with the ATF trick, is to take the engine/car to Jesus Padilla at Kilo Racing in St. Cloud FL. His telephone number is 407.810.8123. He's the best engine guy and tuner in FL, is very reasonable, and has fixed a number of engines built and tuned by the "other tuner" I think you used, especially if you went to Rolo's shop. If you know Bewtew and his former tuner then you know who I am talking about. Jesus can diagnose this quickly and have you back on the road in no time. I'd also highly recommend him to do the tuning on your car in the future. He saved my 3 rotor project - "Jesus Saves"
He went to Rolo because he is running a PFC.... Not sure Kilo tunes PFC.....
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I have another motor that will be going in the car if this motor is really shot...i'm hoping the ATF trick does it, if not when this motor gets pulled apart, i'll let u guys know what exactly happened

thanks for all the help guys!
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Originally Posted by NoPis10
He went to Rolo because he is running a PFC.... Not sure Kilo tunes PFC.....
He doesn't like to tune them but will on occasion. He can take the motor to Kilo if the ATF doesn't work.
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I just started the "ATF Trick" process

i used Marvel Mystery Oil instead of ATF as i found that recommended in a couple of places

I'm going to let it soak for about 24 hours...and then i'll give the motor a couple more turns by hand over the next 3 or 4 days as i study for finals lol

when i turn it over the next time, do i need to drop in some more of the MMO or do i just turn it around a couple times every 24 hours?

also...there was all sorts of hissing sounds and a tiny bit of white smoke that came out of the LIM when i poured in the MMO, is that normal?
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Originally Posted by curacaosfinest
I just started the "ATF Trick" process

i used Marvel Mystery Oil instead of ATF as i found that recommended in a couple of places

I'm going to let it soak for about 24 hours...and then i'll give the motor a couple more turns by hand over the next 3 or 4 days as i study for finals lol

when i turn it over the next time, do i need to drop in some more of the MMO or do i just turn it around a couple times every 24 hours?

also...there was all sorts of hissing sounds and a tiny bit of white smoke that came out of the LIM when i poured in the MMO, is that normal?
Yes those sounds are normal.
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Originally Posted by Leonel95
Yes those sounds are normal.
ok good

and should i be pouring in more MMO when i turn over the engine a couple times tomorrow?

or just keep spinning with whats in there over the next couple days?
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That Sucks....
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Dammn dude, that sucks. Sorry to hear that, I feel your pain as I'm going thru a rebuild right now myself.
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Pull the motor and take it apart.
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sounds like timing is messed up. are you sure you didnt cross plug wires? what coils are you running
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i triple checked the wires and they were correct
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i did not know Kilo looked at PFCs. i thought he was strictly microtech.
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Put about an oz in each housing should be enough, what makes you think it's a stuck seal? Is that 40psi on each face or 40psi all together like reading it with a piston tester?
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Originally Posted by moosejaw
i did not know Kilo looked at PFCs. i thought he was strictly microtech.
Yea for the most part you are right. I recall him working on a few PFCs but I could just be getting old. Hey Drew, tell me more about those taillights
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we can sit here and guess as to what happened all day long, but at the end of the day you will probably have your best answer once you actually tear the engine apart and get a look inside.

next time tear it apart first before we play 20 guesses.

i'm betting you find flat or broken seal springs along with clawed up rotor housings.
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Originally Posted by David Hayes
Yea for the most part you are right. I recall him working on a few PFCs but I could just be getting old. Hey Drew, tell me more about those taillights
As my dad from England would say....
"Youre a cheeky little bugger arent ya!"
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