Just got done with brother's fuel sump/pump/filter
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I think....that I hope if you ever need to get the FD towed, that the tow truck driver won't be stupid enough to use that fuel line for the chain!
So what pump is it?
So what pump is it?
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it's the Aeromotive A1000
I'm sure if he ever needs it towed he will be there with the driver 100% of the time. You never know what those drivers are smoking sometimes
I'm sure if he ever needs it towed he will be there with the driver 100% of the time. You never know what those drivers are smoking sometimes
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And, worse, have fuel all over the road and bottom of the car, and a big fire...
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Man, that would just scare the hell out of me on any street driven car. Maybe I've just had too many things go wrong... That's why I'm going with dual Walbros over the Aeromotive A1000, and besides at 12 volts they actually flow more at 70psi, which is where I'll be at in full boost.
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the pump does hang low but not as low as the sideskirts and the muffler. So if any speedbump is going to knock off the pump it'll at least ruin the sideskirts and scratch the hell out of the muffler.
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I'd just be worried that the same people who stole my emblems once, and then completely stripped down my Integra would see the nice red billet Aeromotive parts and decide that they'd like to have it for themselves.
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It is way to low, way to exposed for safety. Any minor off road excursion, spin or rear ender will dump gas all over the place.
It is actually quite a bit lower than the sideskirts or muffler. I bought a wrecked FD that had about a 3" scuff on the fuel tank from a spin and subsquent travel over a curb. I bought another FD that was hit in the side/rear by a full size truck and went over a curb into a telephone pole. I've seen in person a FD go over a curb at an autocross. Any one of those 3 accidents would have ripped that fuel pump right off the bottom of the car.
Doesn't matter if it is street driven or raced on the track. Doesn't matter what the driver skill level is either. I'm old and cautious though.
I'm not flaming, I'm just telling you what I think based on my experience both practically and as a mechanical engineer.
It is actually quite a bit lower than the sideskirts or muffler. I bought a wrecked FD that had about a 3" scuff on the fuel tank from a spin and subsquent travel over a curb. I bought another FD that was hit in the side/rear by a full size truck and went over a curb into a telephone pole. I've seen in person a FD go over a curb at an autocross. Any one of those 3 accidents would have ripped that fuel pump right off the bottom of the car.
Doesn't matter if it is street driven or raced on the track. Doesn't matter what the driver skill level is either. I'm old and cautious though.
I'm not flaming, I'm just telling you what I think based on my experience both practically and as a mechanical engineer.
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Jeff, I understand where you're coming from and would agree with you except for 2 reasons
1. the side skirts are lower than the pump. I measured it myself. The cf feed skirts sits about 1" lower than the pump. So he will definetly know his pump won't clean when his skirts are breaking off
2. he's had this Fd for about 1 yr now and has only put about 1k miles on it (after the transport home). This is more of a weekend drag car than anything else.
I know you're safety cautious but it's not by any means a daily beater
1. the side skirts are lower than the pump. I measured it myself. The cf feed skirts sits about 1" lower than the pump. So he will definetly know his pump won't clean when his skirts are breaking off
2. he's had this Fd for about 1 yr now and has only put about 1k miles on it (after the transport home). This is more of a weekend drag car than anything else.
I know you're safety cautious but it's not by any means a daily beater
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I hear ya John. The problem is that it still isn't safe for a weekend drag car. You really can't be too safe, especially for a drag car. John Lingenfelter DIED from injuries sustained in a drag racing accident. It really can happen to anyone, probably won't happen to your brother but if it does might as well be as safe as you can be.
Take a look at that pic that I lightened up. I don't see how that pump and lines aren't the lowest part of the car. It is even lower than the muffler.
Take a look at that pic that I lightened up. I don't see how that pump and lines aren't the lowest part of the car. It is even lower than the muffler.
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Actually it isn't lower than the muffler. Again we measured it (from the ground) when everything was installed. And who's to say the muffler is the lowest hanging part of the car? Here's a side shot, you can see even the front lip hangs lower than the side skirts.
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Originally posted by turbojeff
Lightened up the pic a little.
Lightened up the pic a little.
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Way too low, LT1.
It should be above the level of the control arms, minimum. Absolutely anything could take that off, given the right conditions. It's the last thing you want to be ripped off or exposed to friction, as well.
Not to mention someone rear-ending you.
It should be above the level of the control arms, minimum. Absolutely anything could take that off, given the right conditions. It's the last thing you want to be ripped off or exposed to friction, as well.
Not to mention someone rear-ending you.
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Originally posted by TwinTriangles
Looks way nice, Where can I find info on that pump?
Looks way nice, Where can I find info on that pump?
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Believe me, that installation is way too low. I've raced cars for over 30 years, and I've had more incidents on the street that have grabbed stuff off the bottom of my cars. You NEVER want any part of the fuel system in a vulnerable location. Just ask Ford or GM about their fuel tank location problems.
That's too nice of a car to destroy with fire, and just think what would happen if that unit gets ripped off in an accident, the car burns, and your brother or you are trapped inside. Racers fear fire more than anything else, and with good reason! Don't take the chance!
That's too nice of a car to destroy with fire, and just think what would happen if that unit gets ripped off in an accident, the car burns, and your brother or you are trapped inside. Racers fear fire more than anything else, and with good reason! Don't take the chance!
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