rzograbian

hey,

i am about to order a fmic from greddy. i wanted to know about the 2 row ones. in the website rx7store.net, they sell the 2 row for single turbo with piping for about $1300 and for stock twins for $900. my question is: are the intercooler cores the same for both of them? is the price increase because of the piping that in included for each setup.

thanks for any help

Garrett

The rows simply denote the thickness. The 3 row is thicker than the 2 row. Many people run both of these intercoolers with single but if your sticking with stock turbos I would recommend the 2 row because 3 row would be over kill. That is, if you are running at stock boost levels.

SERIES7

If you're running on stock boost levels, a greddy, blitz, or M2 stock mount will suffice, IMHO.
If you're a freeway driver, I like what the Greddy 2-row has to offer. Get an air temp gauge and you will see the dramatic difference when boosting on the freeway.

Zyon13B

He's asking why the big price difference between the single kit and stock twin kit. Because they both are 2 row.

Garrett

Well ****...you're right Zyon13B.

So...do you know the answer? Or just clearing up confusion.

I'd be interested in knowing that one also.

Zyon13B

I don't know. It is a good question though.

rotarypower101

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I believe the cores are different, and the piping as well.
The more expensive one has the R spec core and aluminum piping while the cheaper one has a older V spec core design and mild steel piping I think, has been awhile since I have read anything about them

JonesersRX7

Not to hi-jack the thread....

What would be best options if I plan on running the twins for say 8-12 months and then plan on going to a single?

By Greddy 2 row or a larger stock mount and then sell them to upgrade to a bigger FMIC when the single goes in?

or...

I don't know other options of running FMIC that would work with both twins and single...

Jonesie -

EDIT:

to contribute to original topic... I would PM or email Jason, he would be your best bet.

rzograbian

so nobody knows for sure???

some people think they are different but i need to know if they are diff for sure. i am going to buy one for my t04s single. will the one with the twins do it. i need so save as much money as i can!! (doesnt everyone)

TwinTurboTheo

For the TO4S, I would recommend the Greddy 3row or the Blitz. You'll probably be pushing more psi with the single turbo and the 2row will not be sufficient. The Greddy FMIC's are decent but the quality is not as good in contrast to the Blitz one (IMO). The Greddy will force you to cut up your bumper and hack off part of the frame. It will also completely block off your front air dam. The Blitz FMIC sits back behind the bumper allowing better air flow and you don't have to hack up the bumper or frame.


As far as the price, from what i've seen, the Greddy 2row is about $850-900, and the 3row(which is for a single turbo) is about $1200-1300.

Garrett

If I did it all over again I would definitely get the blitz. One of my best friends who also has a TO4S is running a good 15 degrees cooler than me because the blitz doesn't get heat soaked from being so close to the engine.

Just run the stock IC if you are worried about piping, if not, get someone to fabricate piping once you go single. It really isn't that big of a deal.

Our engines hate the stock IC. It is pitiful compared to what is optimal for rotaries. Just get the IC and worry about piping later. That will be the least of your worries once you go single.

Garrett

Icemastr

iTrader: (2)

The blitz runs cooler than the greddy because it doesnt sit as close to the engine? Are you talking about the greddy SMIC? The greddy FMIC is further away from the engine. People make it sound like a big deal, but all you cut is a teeny part of the frame, and trim off about an inch of the front bumper. If you plan on going single turbo not for 8-12 months then get the IC for the stock twins, a 2row will work just fine on a T04S. The T04S also pipes to the stock location so the piping for the IC should hook up still without having to do any welding. Otherwise if you want a 3Row you will have to get someone who can weld the piping.

Garrett

I wasn't talking about the greddy; I was referring to my own intercooler, which is in my sig.

When you install the greddy you leave the IC dangling without protection. With the Blitz and Apexi you don't because it mounts before that reinforcement thingy (inside technical jargon huh?). They are also recessed a little to keep it so it is not exposed like the Greddy front mounts are. The core of the apexi and blitz look very similar and are huge. To some these issues are a big deal and a deciding factor. People want to get optimal temps with a front mount, so why not go with one that protects your IC from getting damaged by impact.

Garrett