cblake3

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I finally got around to installing the B&M knock-off shifter that I got for Christmas. I had absolutely NO problems with the upper passenger shifter housing bolt that many others have had. This must mean that my driveline is still aligned.


Anyway, 3 questions:

1. Since the shifter stalk is thinner than the stock one, the outter vinyl boot does not sit tight against the bottom of the shift **** anymore. There is a slight gap between the two now. Looking for suggestions in remedying that. What have others done? My thought is to put somthing on the new stalk to keep the boot in place.

2. Anyone figured a way to seal the housing to the stalk similar to the stock set up. B&M has a boot that seals the two, but they don't sell it separately.

3. Any way to salvage the plastic ring that holds the boot (the one that bolts to the drive-shaft tunnel with 4 bolts/nuts) to the stock shifter? I assume that I just have to cut that off of the stock shifter, install and put a zip tie in it's place.

Str8Down

Find an aluminum collar at Home Depot that is close to the same diameter, with a set screw. Put it on the shifter before the boot, at the height that you want the boot to ride.

cblake3

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Any idea on what I can use for a collar that would be available at Home Depot?

Str8Down

They make aluminum collars with set screws built in.

M104-AMG

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I use a stainless steel tie-wrap.

:-) neil

BTW: you could also use a hose-clamp . . .

WHOOSH

Stuff the boot with an old sponge.........

GoRacer

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1. I never had that problem. Are you missing parts? First there is the rectangular cover over the rectangular hole with the four hex nuts. Second there are two rubber boots for insilation. Third there is a carped thing for insilation as well. I'm not sure if I got the order right but those are the peices.

2. Seal the housing to the stock? huh, eh, err, explain? The MK1's are not exact B&M replicas because B&M uses a rubber boot for the top 1/2 and the Mookey has a solid metal peice. I have no idea if the internals are different as well.

3. what? plastic ring? cut it off? zip ties? what? Refer back to answer #1

Mooky MK1 shifter installed with RAZO carbon **** below...

cblake3

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Thanks for your reply.
I have all of the parts listed in #1.

As for #2, I would like to see what I could use in place of the rubber boot that comes with the B&M ("B&M uses a rubber boot for the top 1/2") since the Mookeh doesn't have the boot. I want to make sure the stalk is sealed to the base of the unit. I wondered if anyone else had found a boot that would fit there.

If you simply put the stock boots back on, dust and dirt could hypothtically get into the mechanism from belowthe car, right.

As for #3, I was referring to the white plastic ring that seals the stalk to the "rectangular cover" that covers the "rectangular hole with four hex nuts." That cover will not come off of the stock shifter w/o removing the ring I have described. I am still guessing I will have to cut the ring off, remove the cover/boot, place it on the new shifter and use a zip tie in its place.

Did you not have a problem with the outter vinyl boot not sitting tight against the bottom of the shift ****? Maybe it is because you are not using the stock shift ****.

Another question: Have you had any problems with the Mookeh shifter (rattling, etc)? Are you happy with it?

cblake3

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Do they sell somthing like that at Home Depot? It sounds like more of an Auto Parts Store thing.
What else would an aluminum collar for?

GoRacer

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MK1 is not a B&M. It does not use a rubber boot. Stalk is sealed to the base? ...don't know what you mean. Why would you need a boot when there is a solid peice of metal there?

How would dirt get in from below the car when it's attached to the trans?

#3 huh?> what white plastic ring? zip tie? maybe you should take pictures.


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Base of short shifter goes on trans. Use a sealant in beteween the two. You may hve to trim top/right corner or realign trans for one hex bolt.

Insert shifter lever into unit on top of screw covered springs. Screw metal cover to seal it. You can use sealant if you want, since you should have filled in a lil bit of trans fluid.

Retangular cover goes over trans tunnel hole with it's rubber boot sliding over shifter lever and covers 2nd story of shifter base where B&M has a rubber boot 2nd/top 1/2 instead.

There are two rubber boots that go over the rubber boot attached to the rectangular peice just installed.

There is a carpet like peice with a hole in the center that goes over the rectangular peice for noise and heat insilation.

You are done. No plastic zip tie thingamamabob deal. You will have to show pictures for that. I did no cutting nor zip ties. no reused any stock parts.

The stock shift **** fits fine but the RAZO sits much lower (like a Porsche). I don't remember a gap but could have been a slight one. It couldn't have been much or it would have iritated me. If you the leather cover to be flush with the ****, then try electrical tape around the lever if you don't have shrink tube.

There is no rattle. A bit notchy until it wears in. Not as smootch as stock but much shorter.

XSTransAm

a zip tie will easily hold the boot flush with the shifter.

cblake3

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The top of both shifters are the same if you look at pictures of the 2. The MK1 shifter is not sealed at the top(same as B&M) which is why B&M supplies a boot with their shifter.
There is a square opening at the top of the shifter which allows you to pivot the stalk back and forth through the gears. At the bottom of that hole (looking from the top) the fulcrom is made of nylon and pivots back and forth in the shifter housing. The fulcrom came slightly greased is you recall. That is the area I am trying to keep free of dust, dirt, etc. It seems like an area that would attract dirt and such since it is greased and will eventually get covered in transmission fluid.

Can someone else on the forum starighten this out?

I would attach pics, but I don't have any available right now.

cblake3

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Here are pics of the 2 shifters. This is what the B&M looks like w/o the boot installed. No difference in the top of the 2.

Sgtblue

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Coming a little late to the thread, but if it's not too late...Your boot should have a small ring at the top where it rests against/on the stalk. Just mark where the ring should rest on the new thinner stalk and wind some electrical tape around the stalk until it's thick enough to support the ring. I prefer to use the type of tape that is a little sticky on both sides because it doesn't seem to dry out like the shinny plastic tape.
When I bought the REDLINE leather boot set, I used this method to secure the e-brake boot to the handle, rather than the zip-tie. I was afraid having the hard zip-tie under the boot might wear through eventually.

GoRacer

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Thanks for posting a pic of the B&M mounted - cblake3
- I'm suprised, I didn't think the B&M had the upper metal section since it had the boot. Are the internals the same as well? Allthough the rubber boot cover is a nice added touch it doesn't justify the cost, only better internals would (smoother shifting). I don't see how dirt would get in there, maybe dust but it is in the hump up high and unless you drive on dirt roads I just just don't see worrying over it.

ok, now I understand the zip tie and ring deal (I think). The better solution would be electrical tape, heat shrink tape or cold shrink tape (eastwood.com) on the lever (stalk) to fatten it so the cover doesn't fall down and rests just below the ****. Like Sgtblue also pointed out. You may want to reuse the plastic/nylon bushing thing that caps onto the bottom end of the lever/stalk. I used a metal one but had to grind it down to fit.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...&highlight=mk1