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Im not going to argue about it, nothing is impossible.
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Aww... did I just kill your hopes of getting a RHD RX7? Don't worry, you are not the first one to fall in this trap, and you will not be the last.
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Aww... did I just kill your hopes of getting a RHD RX7? Don't worry, you are not the first one to fall in this trap, and you will not be the last.
wow did you just kill my hopes? i own an fd, and if i truely wanted a rhd model i would do the work myself and buy the parts(more than i can say for probably you) how does it feel to pay somone else to mod your car? hmmm
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and if i truely wanted a rhd model i would do the work myself and buy the parts
Please elaborate on this.
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"Speedbump"? Why don't you do us all a favor, and spend the rest of your time attempting to get the letter of designation from Mazda. The reason it's "impossible" is because Mazda is run by people with at least discernable intellligence, and they know that the two models are not identical. If it was so "easy", there'd be tons of RHD cars trolling around the streets of the U.S.

Do a search on this topic and read up. Before Dominic rips you a new one...
Not to be an *******, but why would it be impossible to get a letter from Mazda? The test isn't whether the cars are "identical," but rahter, whehter "the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in dynamic crash tests." If the safety features of the two cars are the same and the only differences have to do with the mechanics such as the steering wheel, pedals, etc. why wouldn't they issue the letter? I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just trying to clarify.
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wow did you just kill my hopes? i own an fd, and if i truely wanted a rhd model i would do the work myself and buy the parts(more than i can say for probably you) how does it feel to pay somone else to mod your car? hmmm
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Not to be an *******, but why would it be impossible to get a letter from Mazda? The test isn't whether the cars are "identical," but rahter, whehter "the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in dynamic crash tests." If the safety features of the two cars are the same and the only differences have to do with the mechanics such as the steering wheel, pedals, etc. why wouldn't they issue the letter? I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just trying to clarify.
Legal issues. Mazda doesn't want to put their *** on the line like that.
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wow did you just kill my hopes? i own an fd, and if i truely wanted a rhd model i would do the work myself and buy the parts(more than i can say for probably you) how does it feel to pay somone else to mod your car? hmmm
How many cars do you own? Its like a new one in every thread. So far you have an FD, a S13, and a MKIV Supra.
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How many cars do you own? Its like a new one in every thread. So far you have an FD, a S13, and a MKIV Supra.

**** exited stage left.
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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio
Not to be an *******, but why would it be impossible to get a letter from Mazda? The test isn't whether the cars are "identical," but rahter, whehter "the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in dynamic crash tests." If the safety features of the two cars are the same and the only differences have to do with the mechanics such as the steering wheel, pedals, etc. why wouldn't they issue the letter? I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just trying to clarify.
Because there are a myriad number of FMVSS standards that the car must meet to the absolute letter of the specified regulation, and Mazda would be opening itself up to severe liability concerns and federal penalties if it just came out and said "oh yeah, sure, they will meet the crash standards" without the proper testing. This also doesn't take into account the possibility of NHTSA and the DOT modifying those standards.
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
Legal issues. Mazda doesn't want to put their *** on the line like that.
I suppose, but I can't really image what liability they would be worried about incurring becuase the letter would only have to state that the RHD model has the same safety features as the LHD model. The only way that I could see such a statement being used against them is if the RHD model actually didn't have the same safety features and someone who was injured could prove that if the car did have the same features, they wouldn't have been injured (or would have been less injured). Also, it seems that if there were any serious or legitimate legal issues involved, the NHSTA wouldn't have even made it an option.
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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio
Not to be an *******, but why would it be impossible to get a letter from Mazda? The test isn't whether the cars are "identical," but rahter, whehter "the right-hand drive vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in dynamic crash tests." If the safety features of the two cars are the same and the only differences have to do with the mechanics such as the steering wheel, pedals, etc. why wouldn't they issue the letter? I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just trying to clarify.
See the thing is its not impossible. Its a business and its done everyday. Some of these guys argue that because they try and do it and they have problems. An RI company that does 100s of cars a year could easily do it if they haven't already and the thing is you don't have to have a specific letter for every customer, once they get this "letter" that is it. Proven done.

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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio
I suppose, but I can't really image what liability they would be worried about incurring becuase the letter would only have to state that the RHD model has the same safety features as the LHD model.
No, the letter is a declaration by the manufacturer that the RHD model will pass all the FMVSS standards without any testing.
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Originally Posted by Kento
Because there are a myriad number of FMVSS standards that the car must meet to the absolute letter of the specified regulation, and Mazda would be opening itself up to severe liability concerns and federal penalties if it just came out and said "oh yeah, sure, they will meet the crash standards" without the proper testing. This also doesn't take into account the possibility of NHTSA and the DOT modifying those standards.
Yeah, but think about it: If the cars are identical except for the obvious differences (the seat being on a different side, the steering wheel, etc.) why wouldn't it pass the applicable crash tests? If the only difference is which side the steering wheel, driver's seat, etc. is on, there would be absolutely no impact on safety whatsoever.
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How many cars do you own? Its like a new one in every thread. So far you have an FD, a S13, and a MKIV Supra.
Wow you've read one of my post but you are ovbviously a huge idiot becaue if you would have read it correctly you would have realized that i use to own an mkiv. I just bought my fd a couple months ago right after i sold my mkiv. I own a 90 hatch 240 with an sr and a 96 with a kouki front end conversion. And if you would have looked closer to that particular post you would have also read that i am a head mechanic at a speedshop/dyno. I don't know why your asking me this because its totally off topic but yes i work on hot rods all day with the ocasional street import a few times a month. I went to one of the best automotive schools in the country for just over 23 months. This is what i do, and i know something about importing because we had a customer come in that actually wanted to import a new skyline(350z) for some odd reason, and we contacted the local Ri and took care of it.


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we had a customer come in that actually wanted to import a new skyline(350z) for some odd reason, and we contacted the local Ri and took care of it.


But keep them coming.

Holy ****. You just dug an impossible hole with this one kid. You want me to bite on this one too?
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I really think we should get a sticky about this topic.....As it comes up too often...and too many n00bs feelings are getting hurt.....











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Holy ****. You just dug an impossible hole with this one kid. You want me to bite on this one too?
Are you serious, They call the g35/350z a skyline in japan. Its more the g35 but yes thats what they call it.
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http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic27478.htm
http://www.bengoodger.com/cars/g35/
http://www.clubg35.com/
Welcome to ClubG35, the world's largest Infiniti G35 (Nissan Skyline) community web site. It's our goal to provide G35 owners with the best and most comprehensive G35 site around! Enjoy the site and let us know if there is anything that we are missing!
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I have never quoted myself, dear ****, but you bring out the best in me. Here it is again, for your viewing pleasure
bitches want more links! The g35 is called a skyline r35 in japan, and we all the know g35 is the same as a 350z
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" harg harg harg i guess i didnt' know that the g35 was a skyline in japan i don't know what to say, **** your an idot" hahaha lolol
http://optionimports.com/import-store/skylineg35.html
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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio
Yeah, but think about it: If the cars are identical except for the obvious differences (the seat being on a different side, the steering wheel, etc.) why wouldn't it pass the applicable crash tests? If the only difference is which side the steering wheel, driver's seat, etc. is on, there would be absolutely no impact on safety whatsoever.
How do you know the models are "identical" structurally? And regardless, how will that guarantee the RHD model will pass all the FMVSS regs without any testing beforehand? If there hasn't been any testing done and then someone is injured in an accident, that person can force Mazda to prove it; if it fails federal tests for any reason whatsoever, Mazda will be held liable for everything: the injured person, the federal penalties, the lawsuits that are sure to follow, etc.
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I thought they called a 350Z a Fairlady Z (Z33) in Japan? Forgive me, I haven't had years of experience.
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Originally Posted by Black97VR4
I thought they called a 350Z a Fairlady Z (Z33) in Japan? Forgive me, I haven't had years of experience.
READ my post! yes its called a fairlady, i even called it that a couple pages ago. OK lets go over this for the slow thinkers.

350z=g35 mmmmmm same car ones for performace and one is luxury and performace

now am i moving to fast?

350z=g35=r35 skyline

hmmm so the 350z has the same motor, chassis, brakes, and transmission, as the g35? yep so wouldn't that mean that the 350z was the same car as the r35 skyline? yep sure would.

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Are you serious, They call the g35/350z a skyline in japan. Its more the g35 but yes thats what they call it.
Wow, you truly are clueless on this.


Every car sold after January 1st, 1996 have OBD-II equipped to help reduce emissions. At this point in time NO ONE in the country can import a car 1996 and newer. Even MotoRex in all their ricer glory can't get an 1996 or up Skyline registered legally at this time.



So how do they plan on getting this Skyline into the states?
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