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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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FWIW, we paid $29,150 in September '94 for our new Chaste White '94 5-speed with PEP. This was through a fleet sales guy who got the car for us from a dealer. Just another data point...
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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The warranty will only be good at a Mazda Dealer. There are very few mechanics, at Mazda dealerships, that have training to work on these cars. That makes a factory warranty almost worthless.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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FWIW, we paid $29,150 in September '94 for our new Chaste White '94 5-speed with PEP. This was through a fleet sales guy who got the car for us from a dealer. Just another data point...
Chaste white, 5-speed != Blech blue, shlushbox.

Define 'new'.

And who is this 'we', Kemo Sabe?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Blech blue, shlushbox.

x1000, if you buy it you will own the least wanted fd in history, 15 yrs at the dealership and still can't convince anyone to take it home lol
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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wouldn't drop a penny over 25 on it, and that's only because it's got so low mileage, IMO it's not even worth it. that silver with red leather one on the other hand...
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Yea I never knew why it never sold. I'm glad it didn't actually. It belongs with the owner. He has taken such good care of it. If I know there are people like that keeping their cars cherry, it makes me feel better about other people modding and racing their cars. If I ever found a cherry 95, I don't know what I would sell or do to get one.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Just under 40k plus taxes is a hugh rip off. It would be super nice to have such a low mileage chassis with brand new bushings etc, but the pain of swapping to a 5 spd and the cost dont justify the car condition. Especially now days with the economy how is it you can find steals for cars all over. Hell for that much you can pick up lightly used C6 vettes all day long that still have some factory warrenty left. Plus the many other sports cars that are newer than the fd.

I would rather spend 15-20k on a good condition FD, then throw 10+k into mods and reliability fixes.

Someday that car will be worth something if it doesnt get miles racked up on it.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cgotto6
Someday that car will be worth something if it doesnt get miles racked up on it.
I somehow doubt this. I think the car would most definitely appreciate if it was originally manual. Somehow I doubt that many car collectors would pay a handsome sum for an automatic FD. Converting it to manual would bring down the value considerably.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Converting it to manual would bring down the value considerably.
I've seen you post this a few times Mr Choi, but I'm not sure I agree. Under what data points do you offer such an assumption?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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a cool article written by the head of appraisals at ICBC (BC's insurance company)

Column: Collector Classics

Source: Canwest News Service

People frequently ask about the collector cars of the future.

All I can offer an educated guess, so don't rush out and start stockpiling vehicles based on that!

The current boom in the collector car market, like any other market, has its peaks and valleys -- the trend of sky-high values seemed to peak in 2005. The market has been driven by the three groups of the baby-boomer generation, with the most popular vehicles being the muscle cars and European sports cars. I have a feeling, just like the boomer generation, the muscle car market will have a sell-by date and the future collector vehicles will appeal to the Generations X and Y.

The Gen X group is quite different from the boomers. Its members are not prepared to wait and want everything now, so they have more than likely experienced owning a BMW M3 or a Corvette Z06. It is not in their nature to hold onto such vehicles, as it is important to be seen in the latest and greatest thing on wheels, so it is highly unlikely that they will still own one of these cars 30 years from now. That is when they will experience life passing them by and will be prepared to pay ten times what they had, to own one of those same cars again. Does this sound familiar?

So here is a list of my choices: BMW M3, Acura Integra Type "R", third generation Mazda RX-7 twin-turbo, Mazda Miata, Subaru WRX STi, Acura NSX, Nissan GTR, Toyota MR2, Mitsubishi Evo, and for the off-road collector, the Toyota FJ cruiser.

The domestic list will include the Dodge Viper SRT10, Corvette ZR1, Hemi Challenger, Camaro and Shelby Mustang, and for those wanting a fast sedan, the Cadillac CTS-V or the Chrysler 300C SRT8. The affordable classics might include the reasonably rust free Pontiac Fiero GT and the Pontiac Solstice.

The future Edsel is the Pontiac Aztec with the optional tent! They all used to laugh at the Edsel and look who's laughing now-- Edsel owners, all the way to the bank.

If any of the above are manual transmission cars, that will also be a novelty, as I see the manual transmission being phased out in the next 10 years. If you still have the skill to use a stick shift, you will be a true gearhead hero.

Nigel Matthews is the specialty-vehicle program manager for the Insurance Corp. of B.C's. Collector Car program. He assists enthusiasts in licensing and insurance of antique and collector vehicles. Learn more about the program by typing "collector car"
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
I somehow doubt this. I think the car would most definitely appreciate if it was originally manual. Somehow I doubt that many car collectors would pay a handsome sum for an automatic FD. Converting it to manual would bring down the value considerably.
Not saying it would be 100k or anything. But in 15-20 so years with low mileage I could see it up near 50k.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I've seen you post this a few times Mr Choi, but I'm not sure I agree. Under what data points do you offer such an assumption?
If you're buying a cherry car for the purpose of letting it appreciate and become a mueseum piece, any modification done to it will bring the value down. I'm not talking about cars you use to just buy and drive, I mean cars with low miles that stay low miles forever. Its kind of like collectors that do their best to number match each and every part of a classic car. They want cars in the exact same state it left the factory. They want mint. They want comic books that have never been read or toys that have never been opened from the original packaging. If I were to buy a cherry automatic for these purposes, I would only accept one if the conversion was done by mazda and even then it would probably bother me. This is under the assumption that really rich car collectors are really really ****, which I think they are because they can damn well afford to be and these are the only people you would want to sell to because they are the only ones that are willing to part with alot of money to do so.

Plus, when we see a converted car now it kind of irks us. Who did the conversion? How was it done? Time to low ball.

Originally Posted by Cgotto6
Not saying it would be 100k or anything. But in 15-20 so years with low mileage I could see it up near 50k.
I'd definitely agree with you if this were a MT car but the ATs are so much less desirable. Even now when we buy we think this way. We are going to be the collectors of the future and I don't see our stance on which transmission is the superior one for FDs EVER changing.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cgotto6
i would rather spend 15-20k on a good condition fd, then throw 10+k into mods and reliability fixes.
+1

Imagine what you could end up with if you started with a used FD and modded it until you spent $40k.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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first off, i believe ur talking about the 7 at wolfe mazda out in langely or somethin, the one that was purchased on ebay for some ridiculous price like 50K..

if you search you will the car has been discussed on the forums before.

I was under the assumption they werent going to sell it, was suppose to be a show piece forthe showroom ( that was before the recession though)

ive seen it in person at the auto show in BC place. nothing special really especially since its auto and super stock, right down to the AST etc.

i wouldnt buy a stock FD like that unless i had the $$$ and patience to leave it in the garage for another 20-30 yrs... lol
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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+1

Imagine what you could end up with if you started with a used FD and modded it until you spent $40k.
hahaha thats very true. You could easily build a 3-rotor monster.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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I would rather spend 40k on a new Rx7 then any other car, like everyone I prefer rocking gears, but I could deal with an auto if it was brand new!
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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wow 40k ? that's a lot of money.. i would rather buy a z06 or buy a used rx7 for around 10k and drop a 20b
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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wow 40k ? that's a lot of money.. i would rather buy a z06 or buy a used rx7 for around 10k and drop a 20b
+1 to Z06 but i'd stay 13b or go quad-rotor if $40k is enough
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bc_fd3s
So turns out there is a Mazda dealer local to me that has a new 1994 Montego Blue touring RX7. It's never been registered, and has something like 200kms on it. Unfortunately it's a slushbox but I'm still mildly interested in possibly picking it up and hiding it away for a long time . I haven't heard back from the sales dept yet, but how much would you think it is worth?

It's never been registered, and still hold the full factory warranty.
i'm not sure but i don't think you could warranty register a us version in canada. we can't lookup parts for canada models. it's totally different for parts and service, the vin # will not register in our computer. that's why you have to go ebay to get canadian model parts. i could be wrong ? anyone ?

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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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i'm not sure but i don't think you could warranty register a us version in canada. we can't lookup parts for canada models. it's totally different for parts and service, the vin # will not register in our computer. that's why you have to go ebay to get canadian model parts. i could be wrong ? anyone ?
Yes, you can. I've looked into it.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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It is possible to bring in a US Car but Transport Canada will make you modify the bumpers supports and add daytime running lights....
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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warranty is not in effect since it is a US model
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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I think that price is a little steep considering that the owner of that rare Pearly White FD couldn't sell it for 20k. That dealership thinks that FD is more of a gem than it is.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=pearly

I saw another Chaste White FD auto in NoCal for sale last spring, not the same mileage (I think it had around 50k) but it was in excellent condition. That car sat for months on autotrader, went from 15k to 12k, then I don't know where.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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It is possible to bring in a US Car but Transport Canada will make you modify the bumpers supports and add daytime running lights....
not really... so long as it's over 15 years you're good. and recently the bumper standards were changed up here (which allowed for the EVO's to come in)...

My car was from Portland and all I did was some DR lights, an inspection and I was good to insure.
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