How much HP to run with a C6?
04-10-06, 06:43 PM
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How fast does the C-6 get through the corners? I would be cool to compare low and hi speed autocross times. That would be a better test of the overall performance of both cars. Compare them modded and stock.
Everyone that seriously drag races an FD winds up putting in a 9" Ford rear axle and dumping the IRS because the car won't hook. It can't transfer weight because there is not enough to transfer anyway!
In the real world, the FD is my choice. It's like a race car for the street, it feels like one when you drive it, like a big shifter kart.
Everyone that seriously drag races an FD winds up putting in a 9" Ford rear axle and dumping the IRS because the car won't hook. It can't transfer weight because there is not enough to transfer anyway!
In the real world, the FD is my choice. It's like a race car for the street, it feels like one when you drive it, like a big shifter kart.
04-10-06, 07:03 PM
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Both of these cars were bone stock including the tires.
Fastest C6 time 12.48 @ 112.11
Fastest C6 Z06 11.310 @ 127.52
360 rwhp in an RX-7 will easily beat the C6 but not fast enough for the Z06...
You need 410 rwhp I would guess...
Fastest C6 time 12.48 @ 112.11
Fastest C6 Z06 11.310 @ 127.52
360 rwhp in an RX-7 will easily beat the C6 but not fast enough for the Z06...
You need 410 rwhp I would guess...
04-10-06, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tom tim
if it was a z51 c6 it has 505hp! you need more hp than 350....
04-10-06, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Geiman
How fast does the C-6 get through the corners? I would be cool to compare low and hi speed autocross times. That would be a better test of the overall performance of both cars. Compare them modded and stock.
Everyone that seriously drag races an FD winds up putting in a 9" Ford rear axle and dumping the IRS because the car won't hook. It can't transfer weight because there is not enough to transfer anyway!
In the real world, the FD is my choice. It's like a race car for the street, it feels like one when you drive it, like a big shifter kart.
Everyone that seriously drag races an FD winds up putting in a 9" Ford rear axle and dumping the IRS because the car won't hook. It can't transfer weight because there is not enough to transfer anyway!
In the real world, the FD is my choice. It's like a race car for the street, it feels like one when you drive it, like a big shifter kart.
Not that I dont love my FD, it just seems nobody on this site gives other cars the respect they deserve...
04-10-06, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by adam c
A stock 02 Z06 has 405 hp. Subtract 15% for drive line loss, and you get 344 rwhp. It weighs 3120. That gives us a 9.07/1 weight to rwhp ratio.
At 2800 lbs, the FD will need 308.7 rwhp to have an even ratio with the Z06. Using these numbers, an FD with 360 rwhp should easily beat a stock Z06.
My car at about 300 rwhp was very close to the Z06. With another 60 rwhp, I would have won by a sizable margin.
Z06 info taken from this site:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z4700/default.aspx
At 2800 lbs, the FD will need 308.7 rwhp to have an even ratio with the Z06. Using these numbers, an FD with 360 rwhp should easily beat a stock Z06.
My car at about 300 rwhp was very close to the Z06. With another 60 rwhp, I would have won by a sizable margin.
Z06 info taken from this site:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z4700/default.aspx
A 310 rwhp would get beat by a stock z06 pretty badily. There is no point in debating this. time slips dont lie. there is no better way to determine a cars perfomance than their time slip. math and dynos "can" be bullshit!
04-10-06, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
Both of these cars were bone stock including the tires.
Fastest C6 time 12.48 @ 112.11
Fastest C6 Z06 11.310 @ 127.52
360 rwhp in an RX-7 will easily beat the C6 but not fast enough for the Z06...
You need 410 rwhp I would guess...
Fastest C6 time 12.48 @ 112.11
Fastest C6 Z06 11.310 @ 127.52
360 rwhp in an RX-7 will easily beat the C6 but not fast enough for the Z06...
You need 410 rwhp I would guess...
04-10-06, 07:31 PM
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actually guys i got the chance to take out a brand new z06 last weekend (HOLY FREAKIN *****) and honestly, yeah its fast as ****, but its not toooooo too far off from my 7. i would estimate my power probably 300-340 at the most. if we`re talking an ls2 c6 its not even a contest if you ask me. we can hang with that easy with a few simple bolt ons.
i would agree maybe 400-420whp would keep with a z06.
oh heres a pic my buddy took of me when i had it =) oh man i love my 7 but that was something i`ll never forget!
i would agree maybe 400-420whp would keep with a z06.
oh heres a pic my buddy took of me when i had it =) oh man i love my 7 but that was something i`ll never forget!
04-10-06, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
we have your math racing vs real world time slips. i dont know what else to say.
A 310 rwhp would get beat by a stock z06 pretty badily. There is no point in debating this. time slips dont lie. there is no better way to determine a cars perfomance than their time slip. math and dynos "can" be bullshit!
A 310 rwhp would get beat by a stock z06 pretty badily. There is no point in debating this. time slips dont lie. there is no better way to determine a cars perfomance than their time slip. math and dynos "can" be bullshit!
In the real world, I raced an 02 C5 Z06. No math, no dyno's. He beat me by 1 car length from 20-120. He consistently barely pulled on me the whole way. My car is not heavily modded (see sig), and is run at 13 psi. There is no way that my car is putting down much over 300 rwhp. No way. Add 60 rwhp to my car, and I would have beaten him badly ............ in the real world
04-10-06, 08:41 PM
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The math is off. The power-train loss is about 7-10% for the C6 Z06. That may be because they low balled the numbers. Also you have over 300lbs of torque from 1500 rpm on.
On street tires 330-350 will take a C6. If the Z06 can hook up you will need much more power With an average driver you can hit 1.6 second 60' times all night long.
I've run one and have between 330-350 rwhp, while I did beat him to 60 it was only because it wouldn't hook up. You pretty much can't give it full throttle until you shift to 2nd.
Also no 350 rwhp rx-7 with street tires is going to crack the 11. You'll need slicks and the suspension set up drag racing. Which I would guess would be detrimental for cornering.
On street tires 330-350 will take a C6. If the Z06 can hook up you will need much more power With an average driver you can hit 1.6 second 60' times all night long.
I've run one and have between 330-350 rwhp, while I did beat him to 60 it was only because it wouldn't hook up. You pretty much can't give it full throttle until you shift to 2nd.
Also no 350 rwhp rx-7 with street tires is going to crack the 11. You'll need slicks and the suspension set up drag racing. Which I would guess would be detrimental for cornering.
04-10-06, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FLA94FD
Also no 350 rwhp rx-7 with street tires is going to crack the 11. You'll need slicks and the suspension set up drag racing. Which I would guess would be detrimental for cornering.
Strap a pair of Mickey Street Radials on a 350whp RX7 and you'll be running consistant 11.50's if you're a decent driver.
04-10-06, 09:13 PM
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I don't want to offend anyone. I am young 20 years old to be precise and I was originally on fully modding to my tastes my FD over the next 4 years.
However, I have a few words for you guys that equal the price of the Corvette, Ultima GTR.
However, I have a few words for you guys that equal the price of the Corvette, Ultima GTR.
04-10-06, 09:15 PM
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Not without a drag modded suspension. The suspension will snap like a tooth pick or just have poor weight transfer. At near stock levels I have broken several part on hard launches.
Also were is the video of your 603rwhp run?
Also were is the video of your 603rwhp run?
04-10-06, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FLA94FD
Not without a drag modded suspension. The suspension will snap like a tooth pick or just have poor weight transfer. At near stock levels I have broken several part on hard launches.
Also were is the video of your 603rwhp run?
Also were is the video of your 603rwhp run?
04-10-06, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FLA94FD
Not without a drag modded suspension. The suspension will snap like a tooth pick or just have poor weight transfer. At near stock levels I have broken several part on hard launches.
Also were is the video of your 603rwhp run?
Also were is the video of your 603rwhp run?
04-10-06, 11:45 PM
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Zo6 Car With Heads And Cam Tunned,et Streets And Two Step, Good Driver. 11.01 Best Time! I Ran Slight Moded Zo6 With My Fd Dead Even Till Third And I Pulled One Car Before Traffic Got In Yhe Way. I Was Running 340 Hp. The 505 Hp Corvette Is A Different Story They Pull Hard On The Top End. I Still Dont Want Another Vette,flipped It Upside Down.
04-11-06, 12:09 AM
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They aren't 3300-3500lb boats anymore.
Last I heard the new C6 zo6 is 2700-2800lbs AND 505hp so you need at least 500-520rwhp to keep up!!!!
11.3/127 on stock tires is just sick.
I put down 410-430rwhp and could only trap 11.6/121 with Drag radials on a 2750lb fc
Last I heard the new C6 zo6 is 2700-2800lbs AND 505hp so you need at least 500-520rwhp to keep up!!!!
11.3/127 on stock tires is just sick.
I put down 410-430rwhp and could only trap 11.6/121 with Drag radials on a 2750lb fc
04-11-06, 12:49 AM
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i like the newer vette and all, but everytime i see one out of the corner of my eye i think its a rx7 for a sec.
anyways, id take my fd over a vette anyday.
crap i paid 9500$ for mine with a new motor and turbos and mods. 40K more to spend to try and "keep up"
thats funny.
anyways, most vette owners ive ran into are old douches. same with s2000s though.
NOT ALL of them, but alot of them i swear have somthing stuck up their rump.
anyways, id take my fd over a vette anyday.
crap i paid 9500$ for mine with a new motor and turbos and mods. 40K more to spend to try and "keep up"
thats funny.
anyways, most vette owners ive ran into are old douches. same with s2000s though.
NOT ALL of them, but alot of them i swear have somthing stuck up their rump.
04-11-06, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 89t295k
They aren't 3300-3500lb boats anymore.
Last I heard the new C6 zo6 is 2700-2800lbs AND 505hp so you need at least 500-520rwhp to keep up!!!!
11.3/127 on stock tires is just sick.
I put down 410-430rwhp and could only trap 11.6/121 with Drag radials on a 2750lb fc
Last I heard the new C6 zo6 is 2700-2800lbs AND 505hp so you need at least 500-520rwhp to keep up!!!!
11.3/127 on stock tires is just sick.
I put down 410-430rwhp and could only trap 11.6/121 with Drag radials on a 2750lb fc
The Z06 weighs 3140 lbs and they make 445-450 rwhp.
Fd's with 360 rwhp can trap 11.4's at 120 plus.
Bostin Fd ran high 10's in the mid 120's with 400 rwhp.
04-11-06, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
so what about the c5 z06. they have been known to run high 11s at 117-118mph. how much rwhp would a fd need to beat on of those?
It takes 340 rwhp RX-7 to run with a 390 rwhp modded C5 Z06.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...&highlight=z06