help help...most HORRIBLE thing ever happend!!!
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Originally posted by SurgeMonster
heath this isnt so bad
Now this will force you to take apart the entire interior and clean every piece of dust and mold off. It will be cleaner than ever because of this so maybe its a good thing. You gotta take every little piece out and clean one by one perfect and put it back nicely. Id say its at least 25 hours of work. Spread it out...took me 10 hours to clean my interior and the car was immaculate already. I just wanted to condition the seats so I took them out and I cleaned the carpets real real well and removed the doorpanels to get all the dust from inside of them. Took me a full week of scrubin.
BTW I say its the tiny holes in your seal of the moonroof that caused it
heath this isnt so bad
Now this will force you to take apart the entire interior and clean every piece of dust and mold off. It will be cleaner than ever because of this so maybe its a good thing. You gotta take every little piece out and clean one by one perfect and put it back nicely. Id say its at least 25 hours of work. Spread it out...took me 10 hours to clean my interior and the car was immaculate already. I just wanted to condition the seats so I took them out and I cleaned the carpets real real well and removed the doorpanels to get all the dust from inside of them. Took me a full week of scrubin.
BTW I say its the tiny holes in your seal of the moonroof that caused it
to jimlab and others, this was NOT caused by wiping the pannels down with the (clean) wet rag cause i did that when i first got the car 6mo ago and havent had a problem untill now. what may have happend is it could have spread a very thin layer of fire extinguisher dust (could promote mold growth possibly???) over all the pannels. then with the glass sunroof with the leaky seal, combined with heavy storms that last few weeks, combined w/ the car cover trapping the moisture, and the fact that mold grow the best in the dark (under the car cover)... i just got screwed!
Last edited by RotorMotor; Feb 14, 2004 at 10:15 PM.
You may want to put some baking soda (do not pour the powder out just completely open the top of the box) inside the car to catch some of the odor/smell. Baking soda should absorb some of the moisture inside the car.
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From: Dove le cose sono fatte il vecchio moda il senso
Originally posted by jimlab
Let me guess... on behalf of the idiots who drive their SUVs at 80-90 mph on underinflated tires for long periods of time, then roll them after the blow-out because they don't know how to safely steer a car with one blown tire to the side of the road?
Let me guess... on behalf of the idiots who drive their SUVs at 80-90 mph on underinflated tires for long periods of time, then roll them after the blow-out because they don't know how to safely steer a car with one blown tire to the side of the road?
IN FACT, Ford used to make latches with metal componants in the 50s. But decided to halt production as lighter componants were developed.
FYI: FORD has an annual budget of 185 million dollars for advertising and marketing the F-150 Series Truck. JUST THE F-150 SERIES. You think FORD would use a little of that marketing money to develope a better, safer latch.
ONE MORE THING: FORD doesn't manufacture tires.
Last edited by areXseven; Feb 14, 2004 at 10:54 PM.
The truth is, with a leaky sunroof, stormy weather and hot cali, your car was essentially a steam room. Ever square inch of the interior is covered in moisture and grew mold. I feel bad for you man, that looks somewhat worse then the nightmares i have. lol
I have my doubts about that much mold growing in just two weeks because of some moisture. You said the seller told you there was an engine fire. Do you know this to be absolutely true? Maybe the mold was already there and just multiplied while you left it covered. I'm sure the moisture didn't help, but I find it hard to believe that moisture alone caused all that mold.
Depending on how bad the fire was, could the fire department have completly soaked the car? If the car sat for a while at a junk yard after being soaked, I could see the mold being introduced there. The mold could have been cleaned up to sell the car. Maybe the white stuff wasn't from a fire extguisher. Maybe it was there to kill, or prevent mold growth until they sold the car. This is all just a theory...
Good luck though man. I feel for you.
Depending on how bad the fire was, could the fire department have completly soaked the car? If the car sat for a while at a junk yard after being soaked, I could see the mold being introduced there. The mold could have been cleaned up to sell the car. Maybe the white stuff wasn't from a fire extguisher. Maybe it was there to kill, or prevent mold growth until they sold the car. This is all just a theory...
Good luck though man. I feel for you.
Originally posted by areXseven
ONE MORE THING: FORD doesn't manufacture tires.
ONE MORE THING: FORD doesn't manufacture tires.
And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
Holy Shiet, the first thing that came to my mind when I read the subject line was that you blew your engine, but this probably sucks just as bad and I don't know if that or the mold is worse! Looks like you're going to have to get your toothbrush out, and a bucket of bleach, remove EVERYTHING, and start scrubbing all of that off inch by inch!
A little more advice. Back when I drove my 83 my company insisted that a 2 way radio be installed in my car. The company that did it pulled out the air conditioning drain tube from the firewall and guess what ... I ended up with two inches of water in the car. I managed to drain it out and clean up the mold, but the smell wouldn't leave. Finally I talked to a cleaning service and they advised that I pull every thing out and air dry it in the sun. It worked. It seems that mold of this type doesn't like sunlight. It dies when exposed to the sun, they said. So, I guess it might be worth rolling down the windows and opening the sunroof and back hatch and laying the carpet and seats outdoors on a sunny day.
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Originally posted by Mazda99Nikon
A little more advice. Back when I drove my 83 my company insisted that a 2 way radio be installed in my car. The company that did it pulled out the air conditioning drain tube from the firewall and guess what ... I ended up with two inches of water in the car. I managed to drain it out and clean up the mold, but the smell wouldn't leave. Finally I talked to a cleaning service and they advised that I pull every thing out and air dry it in the sun. It worked. It seems that mold of this type doesn't like sunlight. It dies when exposed to the sun, they said. So, I guess it might be worth rolling down the windows and opening the sunroof and back hatch and laying the carpet and seats outdoors on a sunny day.
A little more advice. Back when I drove my 83 my company insisted that a 2 way radio be installed in my car. The company that did it pulled out the air conditioning drain tube from the firewall and guess what ... I ended up with two inches of water in the car. I managed to drain it out and clean up the mold, but the smell wouldn't leave. Finally I talked to a cleaning service and they advised that I pull every thing out and air dry it in the sun. It worked. It seems that mold of this type doesn't like sunlight. It dies when exposed to the sun, they said. So, I guess it might be worth rolling down the windows and opening the sunroof and back hatch and laying the carpet and seats outdoors on a sunny day.
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The Explorer/Firestone debacle was caused because Ford spec'd their tire inflation pressures 5psi lower than Firestone recommended (for increased ride comfort), and also never tested those tires on an actual Explorer (they instead used a Ranger w/ extra weight added to the bed of the truck). A good amount (around 5-10%, IIRC) of the Explorers that rolled were NOT on stock Firestone tires. A few things all accidents had in common: vehicle loaded heavily, driving high speeds, in warm weather, and on tire pressures even lower than Ford specified (which was already 5psi too low for the tire) due to driver neglect.
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Back on topic, I would call a detailing shop about your interior, the sun-dry idea sounds like a good one. You really want to avoid breathing mold if possible, it's nasty stuff for your lungs. Buy a mask or respirator or something.
PS , check your insurance papers closely, my State Farm policy changes this year included the addition of "mold is not covered" or something to that effect.
-scott-
The Explorer/Firestone debacle was caused because Ford spec'd their tire inflation pressures 5psi lower than Firestone recommended (for increased ride comfort), and also never tested those tires on an actual Explorer (they instead used a Ranger w/ extra weight added to the bed of the truck). A good amount (around 5-10%, IIRC) of the Explorers that rolled were NOT on stock Firestone tires. A few things all accidents had in common: vehicle loaded heavily, driving high speeds, in warm weather, and on tire pressures even lower than Ford specified (which was already 5psi too low for the tire) due to driver neglect.
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Back on topic, I would call a detailing shop about your interior, the sun-dry idea sounds like a good one. You really want to avoid breathing mold if possible, it's nasty stuff for your lungs. Buy a mask or respirator or something.
PS , check your insurance papers closely, my State Farm policy changes this year included the addition of "mold is not covered" or something to that effect.
-scott-
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wow ... that really sucks man ... my parts car was flooded cause it hada garbage bag as a sunroof and another bag coverin the window. it was flooded with about a foot of water a month ago and it doesnt look as bad as yours ... i can only imagine how much water got in
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I didnt read the entire thread so if you have already come across the fix sorry to repeat it.
I have had alot of experience fixing water damage and mold.
Denatured Alcohol kills mold.
I would disassemble the interior, rub it all off with denatured alcohol and then recondition it with leather conditioner and Meguires products.
It will clean up just fine I promise you.
Just gonna take some patience and elbow grease..
Good luck.
I have had alot of experience fixing water damage and mold.
Denatured Alcohol kills mold.
I would disassemble the interior, rub it all off with denatured alcohol and then recondition it with leather conditioner and Meguires products.
It will clean up just fine I promise you.
Just gonna take some patience and elbow grease..
Good luck.
I had an Audi that had a small leak SOMEWHERE that allowed the carpeting in the trunk to get damp and it developed a totally heinous mold like that.
And I did EVERYTHING to kill that **** off, used bleach solutions and other commercial 'mold-killers' to no avail.
I ended up having to replace the carpet. The worst thing was that the carpet had this thick, sisal fiber-like padding, and it was what was propagating the continuance of the mold.
So....I fear your seats are toast....I just don't see how you can EVER get them right, based on my experience.
Good luck though, I hope it works out.
And I did EVERYTHING to kill that **** off, used bleach solutions and other commercial 'mold-killers' to no avail.
I ended up having to replace the carpet. The worst thing was that the carpet had this thick, sisal fiber-like padding, and it was what was propagating the continuance of the mold.
So....I fear your seats are toast....I just don't see how you can EVER get them right, based on my experience.
Good luck though, I hope it works out.
man that is harsh sorry that had to happen....but that is freaking funny man....well hopefully you will find the hole in the exterior that is letting all the moisture in and accumulate...oh and make sure that before you put your interior back in after you clean it you test your car for moisture again...put something in the car and see if after two weeks there is mold or any signs of damnpness and growth of mold then if its all good and there is no mold start putting the interior back in...good luck bro peace out
RotorMotor - I'm SO SORRY! That's horrible. Like SpeedKing said, I expected to come into the thread hearing about a blow motor or something, but this is on a whole nother level! Good luck getting all of that cleaned up...
This makes me afraid for whats happened to my FD which has been back home in NC for the past month...
This makes me afraid for whats happened to my FD which has been back home in NC for the past month...
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i think if you talk to a place that cleans cars that have been in fresh water floods they can tell you how to get rid of it pretty fast. i know i see lots of cars for sale from texas due to fresh water flood. any detial shop should be able to get it all cleaned up.
still sucks tho.
joel
still sucks tho.
joel
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BTW: I'm not an Attorney, but work for one. We hit Ford in late 02 for 225 million.
BTW: I'm not an Attorney, but work for one. We hit Ford in late 02 for 225 million.
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From: Dove le cose sono fatte il vecchio moda il senso
Originally posted by FormerPorscheGuy
Off topic, but I worked for the firm that was on the other side of that case. Small world.
Off topic, but I worked for the firm that was on the other side of that case. Small world.
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Originally posted by SkywarpR
I have my doubts about that much mold growing in just two weeks because of some moisture. You said the seller told you there was an engine fire. Do you know this to be absolutely true? Maybe the mold was already there and just multiplied while you left it covered. I'm sure the moisture didn't help, but I find it hard to believe that moisture alone caused all that mold.
Depending on how bad the fire was, could the fire department have completly soaked the car? If the car sat for a while at a junk yard after being soaked, I could see the mold being introduced there. The mold could have been cleaned up to sell the car. Maybe the white stuff wasn't from a fire extguisher. Maybe it was there to kill, or prevent mold growth until they sold the car. This is all just a theory...
Good luck though man. I feel for you.
I have my doubts about that much mold growing in just two weeks because of some moisture. You said the seller told you there was an engine fire. Do you know this to be absolutely true? Maybe the mold was already there and just multiplied while you left it covered. I'm sure the moisture didn't help, but I find it hard to believe that moisture alone caused all that mold.
Depending on how bad the fire was, could the fire department have completly soaked the car? If the car sat for a while at a junk yard after being soaked, I could see the mold being introduced there. The mold could have been cleaned up to sell the car. Maybe the white stuff wasn't from a fire extguisher. Maybe it was there to kill, or prevent mold growth until they sold the car. This is all just a theory...
Good luck though man. I feel for you.
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Originally posted by Fd3BOOST
I didnt read the entire thread so if you have already come across the fix sorry to repeat it.
I have had alot of experience fixing water damage and mold.
Denatured Alcohol kills mold.
I would disassemble the interior, rub it all off with denatured alcohol and then recondition it with leather conditioner and Meguires products.
It will clean up just fine I promise you.
Just gonna take some patience and elbow grease..
Good luck.
I didnt read the entire thread so if you have already come across the fix sorry to repeat it.
I have had alot of experience fixing water damage and mold.
Denatured Alcohol kills mold.
I would disassemble the interior, rub it all off with denatured alcohol and then recondition it with leather conditioner and Meguires products.
It will clean up just fine I promise you.
Just gonna take some patience and elbow grease..
Good luck.
Fd3boost: about the rubbing alchohol... the ony thing im worried about using it on is our rubbery door pannels/dash.... i have a feeling it may turn them whitish, or discolor them.... any experience actually applying the alchohol to pannels like this?? the seats and carpet will do just fune with the rubbing alchohol though.
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well i got a few cleaning products... rubbing alchohol for the carpets, and seats. leather cleaner/conditioner for hte seats after the alchohol. patio furnature cleaner that kills mold and wont discolor plastic or rubber for the other interior parts..it also smells nice too. unfortunatly i only could pull out 2 pannels before it started raining again, so back on with the car cover.... looks like the mold is gonna get worse before it gets better.






