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Old 12-07-11, 01:50 PM
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usually that is called a vmount
it will help significantly if ducted properly
I recommend you relocate your battery anyway - but do it with a proper kit
this car is known to be fickle and have electric problems
you also want to grind down the ground bolt and weld the positive to the fuse box if possible
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Originally Posted by RE.Amemiya.FD3S
i've also seen in some of fmic setups the radiators are relocated in a horizontal style... will that help cooling the radiator?????????????????????????
You mean a "V-Mount" setup. That's not the same as an SMIC.

SMIC setups generally don't require you to modify or replace the radiator. A V-Mount setup will require a modified (or different) radiator. Often you have to remove your A/C as well, depending on the kit configuration.
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Originally Posted by RE.Amemiya.FD3S
You mean EMUSA
i visited the seller's store and his EMUSA IC kit was one of my 4 options.

So you think EMUSA fitted good? if yes, can you please show me some pics?

Thanks
it fit fine. it is a COPY of the greddy 2 row front mount so it fits the same

i just bought their piping kit without the intercooler
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Originally Posted by RE.Amemiya.FD3S
okay... but inorder to install a v mount you need to relocate the battery, nevetherless it's sooo expensive!
i am thinking of the SMIC, although i don't like it, but SMIC is the recommended option since i live in a hot area.

Where can i get SMIC kits? good affordable brands!
For most fmic setups the battery will have to be relocated as well, but dont fret. That's a simple job compared to installing the front mount. I had to do a fair bit of fabricating brackets to mount the intercooler but now it just bolts on.

And as mentioned above, i think you're confusing v mount with stock mount (smic)

The stock mount is just an aftermarket intercooler similar to the stock one that fits right in place where the stock one went.

For reference, here is a stock engine bay. Follow the pipe from the intake manifold and that takes you to the Stock intercooler.



Now here is an aftermarket smic setup. notice that the intercooler (although aftermarket) takes the exact location of the stock intercooler. (pulled this pic off 7club. If the owner is on here and wants me to take it off just let me know.)



And lastly, here is the v mount. The idea is that the radiator and intercooler form a "v" with the mouth opening to the front of the car, so both the rad and ic are getting direct airflow, maximizing cooling potential. (Yes this means that a v-mount setup requires a new rad as well).



Hope this helps. Also, there are usually some nice stock mounts (which i think is the way for you to go) in the for sale section of this site.

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front mount or V mounted intercooler !?? is there really a better one , both do the same job , pros and cons for this??
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^ there are already a ton of threads on this subject. Try searching.

Long story short, It depends on use, and to give a fast answer:

Front mount = great for drag use.
V-mount = great for track use.
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Originally Posted by theorie
.....Long story short, It depends on use, and to give a fast answer:

Front mount = great for drag use.
V-mount = great for track use.
SMIC = great for street use. Especially on a budget or if your not good at customization/fabrication.
All require good ducting and AI is good regardless.
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budget isnt to much of an issue , kinda a project car so money will come over time for it , and im pretty good with fabrication and such i saw the re amemiya one and loved it just not so much the price , i still wanted to keep the battery up front if i could but if i had to id move it to the trunk and again still have space on the side for the cone filters .

i did see on the rx7 store there was one for sale that was a better price and i guess just a generic rx7 store intercooler but looked really wide and didnt give room for the battery or air filters..


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SMIC = great for street use. Especially on a budget or if your not good at customization/fabrication.
All require good ducting and AI is good regardless.
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Originally Posted by scotty R
budget isnt to much of an issue , kinda a project car so money will come over time for it , and im pretty good with fabrication and such i saw the re amemiya one and loved it just not so much the price , i still wanted to keep the battery up front if i could but if i had to id move it to the trunk and again still have space on the side for the cone filters .

i did see on the rx7 store there was one for sale that was a better price and i guess just a generic rx7 store intercooler but looked really wide and didnt give room for the battery or air filters..
For most of the vmounts you''ll either need to relocate the battery, or get a small one like rotary extreme sells. For the intakes you can run something like the HKS RSR intakes which give you plenty of room. Plus they get rid of the rubber ribbed condom look lol. Have a look at the rotary extreme vmounts too, they're a bit pricey but are high quality vmounts that let you keep AC.
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Okayzzzz... then i'll go for the smic, i don't want to do any modifications!!!

I am thinking of this RE Amemiya smic Intercooler kit, it's so sexy
http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/commodit...3cf0c&scd=9069

since my car is totally RE Amemiya'ed

I've made my decision.

What do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse
For most fmic setups the battery will have to be relocated as well, but dont fret. That's a simple job compared to installing the front mount. I had to do a fair bit of fabricating brackets to mount the intercooler but now it just bolts on.

And as mentioned above, i think you're confusing v mount with stock mount (smic)

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i am not confused i already understood Thanks for the explanation

I've decided to go for the RE Amemiya intercooler kit, it's smic.
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There has been one for sale recently in the parts section for sale by "caredden"
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Here...

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...8#post10895628
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Originally Posted by RE.Amemiya.FD3S
i am not confused i already understood Thanks for the explanation

I've decided to go for the RE Amemiya intercooler kit, it's smic.
Good choice. Just about the same as the greddy kit but with a more aesthetically pleasing top end tank. I am happy to read you are not installing eBay parts onto your car.


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There has been one for sale recently in the parts section for sale by "caredden"
Thanks a lot, I sent him a PM
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Good choice. Just about the same as the greddy kit but with a more aesthetically pleasing top end tank. I am happy to read you are not installing eBay parts onto your car.


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Anything for RE Amemiya

But not all eBay stuff are crap though.
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Damn, i just contacted RE Amemiya and they told me that they're out of stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
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Originally Posted by RE.Amemiya.FD3S
i've also seen in some of fmic setups the radiators are relocated in a horizontal style... will that help cooling the radiator?????????????????????????
They are turned horizontal because there isnt room for the radiator to remain at a 45 deg angle.

I'm glad someone mentioned a vmount. This is known across the comunity to be superior. It is also known that FMIC's in hot climates cause issues for water temps. As far as the complaints of cost, you may have the wrong car my friend.....

I have a Rotary Extreme vmount and couldnt be happier with it. They have a kit for the twins. Ben is a great guy with extremely high quality products. This is my suggestion.

www.rotaryextreme.com
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As far as the complaints of cost, you may have the wrong car my friend.....

I have a Rotary Extreme vmount and couldnt be happier with it. They have a kit for the twins. Ben is a great guy with extremely high quality products. This is my suggestion.

www.rotaryextreme.com
No no my friend, i DO have the right car for myself, i have no problem to pay a lot for Quality Products, please note that my FD has a Full RE Amemiya bodykit and you know how much they cost in Japan, and they're only made in Japan, plus there's shipping as i am living in Oman, not a domestic owner.

V mounts are great, but everyone has his taste, i don't like v mounts and i didn't know that they cost that expensive and it's because i don't have interest in them although they're great, i prefer the FMIC, but because i am living in a hot climate country, i can't go for FMIC, i'll have to go for SMIC.

I'll go for the RE Amemiya SMIC kit as i am an RE Amemiya fan but they don't have it in stock

i looked up in the For Sale section, got one used but has been sold already, so i'll wait till i find one.

I know Rotary Extreme, they're one of the Best
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Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse
Now here is an aftermarket smic setup. notice that the intercooler (although aftermarket) takes the exact location of the stock intercooler. (pulled this pic off 7club. If the owner is on here and wants me to take it off just let me know.)
This one is my photo, no need to take it off, its ok.
This is actually the RE-A SMIC (old version). I have the stock black duct on top, so it covered up the RE-A badge.






Here is the one without the stock duct cover:



This one you post here is actually the NEW RE-A SMIC version, they are 1.5 and 2.0 version. (The photo on top is a 1.5 size, and the bottom one is the 2.0 size)
But I always heard the old version RE-A SMIC performs better than the new version RE-A SMIC. The New version RE-A SMIC won't fit stock air box as well..... need aftermarket intake set up to fit~

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I think Bryan has one for sale now, the old RE-A SMIC, just like mine..... see the thread below:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-parts-99/%5Brx7-boutique%5D-re-amemiya-smic-bov-pipes-972566/
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I remember asking for information on the 1.5 + 2.0 a few years ago and was told they're reengineered OE intercooler cores.
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I think Bryan has one for sale now, the old RE-A SMIC, just like mine..... see the thread below:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=972566
Thanks a lot my friend, i already sent him a PM
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^ Hope you can get it, the RE-A SMIC old version is a nice quality piece~
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Originally Posted by RE.Amemiya.FD3S
No no my friend, i DO have the right car for myself, i have no problem to pay a lot for Quality Products, please note that my FD has a Full RE Amemiya bodykit and you know how much they cost in Japan, and they're only made in Japan, plus there's shipping as i am living in Oman, not a domestic owner.

V mounts are great, but everyone has his taste, i don't like v mounts and i didn't know that they cost that expensive and it's because i don't have interest in them although they're great, i prefer the FMIC, but because i am living in a hot climate country, i can't go for FMIC, i'll have to go for SMIC.

I'll go for the RE Amemiya SMIC kit as i am an RE Amemiya fan but they don't have it in stock

i looked up in the For Sale section, got one used but has been sold already, so i'll wait till i find one.

I know Rotary Extreme, they're one of the Best
I see....

Yes, V-mounts are pricey, mostly because of the fabrication involved. Stock mounts can do well for what they are. If you are dead set on a SMIC, then I believe Pettit's is the best hands down. The kit is quality, largest core, and can support a single turbo in the future if you choose.

http://shop.pettitracing.com/pettit_.../i-408816.aspx



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