i have the profec e-01 and i was thinking of getting the emanage system........wats the deal....any good? worth it? rem* it programs the emanage.......thoughts?

 

I don't think there is enough experience with this unit yet on our cars. Why not get something proven ie.... pfc, microtech, haltech, etc.

 

There is no point. Is it a nice system? Yes, definetly. But why charter new territory. The Power FC is proven. Everyone has that or haltech. So there is always support. There is absolutely no reaosn to get e-manage. There woul dbe no advantage,

 

The e-manage is a piggyback add-on to the stock ECU. For the price it's reasonably effective but it is not as versatile or reliable as something like the A'PEXi Power FC.

 

but can the Power FC get you true smog tests ?

i would not compare emanage + profec e-01 to power fc ..
more like Apexi SUPER AFC and a Super AVC-R combo.

anyone runs emanage + profec e-01 on there single turbo rx-7 now ?

/bo

 

Go ahead and experiment....piggy-back computers are NOT the way to mod your car.

Get the frigging Apexi PFC and be done with it. It controls more functions than any piggy-back will and isn't much more expensive than buying everything you need to run the piggy-backs.

 

You can't change timing on a Rotary with the E-manage. 1000 times better to use the Power FC.

 

Why is that Cant you just but the ignition timing harness and adjust it then..??

 

This is now the second thread in maybe 1 week about "cheap" aftermarket fuel computers. I still don't know how the same topic can come up over and over again so soon?

This thread is actually funny when you think in terms of a historical context. By saying "don't try anything new" no one here would have a PFC, because "back in the day" the EFI/PFS PMS was the "thing".

Have we all forgotten three years ago when the PFC was new and folks were having issues with it? The days prior to the Datalogit where you were at the mercy of a Power Excel dealer to try and tune your base maps?

Just some food for thought...

And there are quite a few FC's that I know of running streetports and hybrid turbos with just an S-AFC. Now, it isn't comparing apples to apples, but there is no reason you COULDN'T get a FD running properly with an e-manage/etc. -- it is just that most folks aren't qualified and don't want to invest the time to do it. As said, the other issue is that once you get everything you need to do the job right, you were better off buying a PFC+datalogit which is plug and play.

It isn't if you can, it is more of a why would you want to? If you could get an e-manage and timing control setup for oh, $400, then sure, you could save a few hundred dollars...at the expense of....insert pros and cons here...?

Regards,
--Ashraf

 

Dude, if you want to thats fine, let us know how long your engine lasts on it.

I bet you pop it in a month.

P.S. GET RID OF THE UGLY WING.

 

Wrong. When the PFC came out, it was a far superior computer to the EFI/PFS computer. THAT'S why people changed to it.

The comments regarding the E-manage have nothing to do with it being new and everything to do with the fact that it can't do as good a job as the PFC. Period. Same goes for the S-AFC or any other cheap piggy-back computer.

 

Don't let the low post count fool you, I've been around for a while.

Anytime anyone asks for advice on an ECU, the automatic answer seems to be the PowerFC, for obvious reasons discussed here, but it isn't the only answer. Before the PFC, folks were putting in E6K's over a weekend, including hacking the wiring harness. Granted, the E6K has negatives (lack of OMP support), but at the time, it had all the power/flexibility the PFC has now before the datalogit came out.

I would think that additional discussion would continue comparing the specs of the e-manage and PFC in Consumer Reports style to show what can and can't be done with the two for the sake of archival so folks don't have to keep asking and getting the short answer of get a PowerFC and keep wondering about the alternatives and their compromises.

I have spent time with some very intelligent FC/FB folks, and you would be surprised what does work just fine for them. Some of that ingenuity has rubbed off on me in favor of a can-do attitude. However, it does take a fairly large body of knowledge to be able to pull off some of the "hacks" discussed in broadstrokes.

Not to venture too far off topic, but I suppose that everyone thinks that a single turbo can only be run by a standalone ECU? A computer is just that, it executes what it was programmed to do, and it is quite feasible to use a stock ECU to run a single. It would take some tweaking but it could be done.

That doesn't mean it is the most ideal solution in terms of time, money, or engine-health!

Regards,
--Ashraf

 

I can only speak from experiance from use on my Impreza, and I don't know if any of it applies to a Rotary engine. But, in terms of the E-manage, I can safely call it the best piggy back setup for managing fuel and timing. The only issue with it exists in all Piggy backs (S-AFC, and the others) is that you can only adjust fuel, timing, ect. You don't have control of the full range like you do with a dedicated ECU. You cannot remove fuel with the unit directly, you have to trick the air sensor into doing so, but you can add fuel and control add. injectors, and also with the e-manage you can do maps based on boost. A real cost effective management system, but it has its limitations, after awhile you will probably surpass the ability of it to make adjustments.

As far as using your Profec with it, I would get a laptop and run the software, I love the software that it uses, its hella easy to program maps and monitor the engine.

But make sure it is fully compatible with your system, if I am not mistaken you do have to have some kind of resistor to get it to work with the Mazda hotwire system. Goto Yahoo and search for E-manage and the first site that shows up should be something like www.mohdparts.com or the like, he has about the most in depth info on the e-manage. And about (If not) the cheapest prices on the unit.

 

engines are cool!!!

 

lmao...