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Old 03-14-06, 08:43 PM
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Greddy 2-Row FMIC Questions

1.On the greddy 2-row fmic can you use a apexi intake?

2. One day I will have a single turbo. Can I use this ic for a single turbo if I change the piping?

3. Do they sell new piping for the convertion?

4. Are there an aftermarket ducking for the cooling the radiator or will I have to fab something up?

5. Anyone with a lot pic of there ducking for the fmic ?

6. Since the radiator will be up right will I have to change the radiator hoses?

7. Anyone displeased or disappointedwith there greddy fmic?

8. How bad was it to install?
Old 03-14-06, 09:00 PM
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u CAN use that intake with some modification to the intake hosing. i switched it for a greddy.


yes but i think its only good for 15psi



i would like to know as well if i can possibly buy new piping when i go single


i trimmed the upper radiator hose and i need to get one slightly longer for the bottom i think

install was easy as hell...if your familiar with the car that is
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1. You can use the apexi intake, but it will be getting hot air from the radiator. As NuTbAgSaN said, the fit comes from the pipe/hose length

2-3. Yes you can use a single, just have some custom pipes made

4. Fab something

5. The intercooler is pressed up against the front bumper opening

6. The kit has instructions on the hosing, IIRC you have to alter the stock ones

7. I'm not dissapointed...it does/acts like a FMIC should in my experience

8. Install was not very difficult, but if you haven't had prior experience removing the front bumper and a bit of cutting, it will present a bit of a challenge. As usual, its about patience.
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Shinobi beat me, but I'll leave my response as well

1.Yes, but it takes some modification. (and I've seen 18+ psi run through it)

2. Yes, you can modify the piping to work

3. It comes with the kit

4.You will have to fab something up

5. Search is your friend

6. No, but you have to cut one and insert a supplied sleeve extension.

7. I'm pleased, as most are.

8. It's about a 6 hour project. It's a little tedious and you need to cut your front fascia to get it to fit. There were instructions with pics by Nocab 72, but his site has been removed from the web. sorry!
Old 03-14-06, 09:24 PM
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I think it's a horrible choice. By an ASP intercooler instead.

Originally Posted by Thomas1277
1.On the greddy 2-row fmic can you use a apexi intake?
Maybe, but you'll be sucking hot radiator air into whatever filter you have since the radiator has to be mounted in an upright position in front of the turbos. That is probably why my intake temps were never as low as my other two friends' cars that have stock mount ASP ICs when driving together. FWIW I'm fairly sure our temp sensors were all accurate.


2. One day I will have a single turbo. Can I use this ic for a single turbo if I change the piping?
Yes you can with a little bit of cutting.


3. Do they sell new piping for the convertion?
3. Not that I'm aware of and if they do it would probably be more cost effective to buy a single turbo RX7 that already has the piping and throw out the RX7.

4. Are there an aftermarket ducking for the cooling the radiator or will I have to fab something up?
You will have to fabricate something. I directed air UNDER my ic core to the radiator and it helped bring down water temps on the highway quite a bit.

6. Since the radiator will be up right will I have to change the radiator hoses?
6. No, they're too cheap to give you a replacement hose. Instead you get a pipe and 1/2 assed directions on how to hack the stock hose up and extend it using the pipe.

7. Anyone displeased or disappointedwith there greddy fmic?
Putting aside what I have already said, I think it's a horrible kit All the stock coupler clamps are garbage and have to be retightened periodically. When 2 of mine failed and I called Greddy to order replacements and they put me on hold for nearly 10 minutes. Then some turd of a man spent 2 minutes accusing me of trying to piece together an intercooler that in his mind was 'obviously' stolen or purchased used (apparently a high crime to the Greedy corp). The amusing part is he didn't seem to change his mind after I told him where I bought it, when I bought it, and offered to give him the contact info for the shop. In the 7 years that I've owned my car this is the only significant purchase that I have regretted.

8. How bad was it to install?
You have to cut the bumper rebar, a support that is part of the car's frame, redrill the stock radiator mounts, move the ac components, replace the power steering cooler with the Greddy piece (that doesn't fit), and remount the horn. Their version of a 'kit' is in line with what I would expect in the RC airplane world (box of raw materials with instructions).

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here is mine...

all the pics on the instructions were drawn by hand..
very had to decipher some times..
but it took about a day to do

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I had major overheating issues after install, but once I got those figured out everything was fine. Just make sure your stock fans work well
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i have to agree the kit leaves a lot to be desired...BUT it is the cheapest and works if you can put up with it. if you can, spend more and get a vmount or a stock mount of some kind, or an apexi or blitz fmic.

i mean it hasnt given me much trouble. the radiator was a peice of cake, minus the top brackets which i couldnt get to work for the life of me. still need to make some of my own!

i removed the a/c and p/s so that took a lot of the bs out of it. that sounds to me to be one of the more annoying parts of the install.

also to my relief i didnt experience any of the koyo fitment horror stories i read about. it is pretty tight around the passenger side but the intake seems to be more in the way then anything. didnt have a problem at all with the piping.

if your on a budget and can put up with some minor fabrication if need be its alright. i still never wanted a front mount but here i am.
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[apexi intakes + greddy 2 core]
note lack of airpump (had to lose my strut brace too).
this is just a stop-gap setup until I can work out something better (though non-foam) for the intakes.
I have a blitz fmic and that was my first choice (not actually a fan of the greddy unit) - but fabrication costs (I was missing some brackets) made me go with this one.

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What intake do you guys recommend ?






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cheap bastard: one of the basic trust/hks foam filter intakes - because it works in the given space. Ideally, (IMO) dumping the foamies and adding a set of k+n pods

rich bastard: trust (greddy) RS - same reason as above - but with nice pipes

smart/handy bastard: custom piping with k+n pods and a custom ducted airbox
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Seeing that were on the Greddy 2 row subject, I was wondering why is it only good up to 15 psi? Is it because it won't or can't cool after 15psi?
or because there something to do with it's construction?
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Primary intake - Apexi piping from their FMIC kit and Blitz SS filter

Secondary - Blitz SS filter and Piping, fab with Aluminum piping kit.

This is the only picture I have since my car is down since 2004.

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Originally Posted by DaiOni
[apexi intakes + greddy 2 core]
note lack of airpump (had to lose my strut brace too).
I actually have both my air pump and a strut brace, along with the 2-row and apexi intakes. The hood closes fine.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...7/RX-73210.JPG <-- a test fit of everything

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...67/fmic1lg.jpg <-- another members car on this forum running the setup

Originally Posted by Thomas1277
What intake do you guys recommend ?
The greddy intakes where the filter is not as long as the apexi ones.

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Originally Posted by olyrx7
Seeing that were on the Greddy 2 row subject, I was wondering why is it only good up to 15 psi? Is it because it won't or can't cool after 15psi?
or because there something to do with it's construction?
That information is incorrect. While you can start to lose efficiency with a large single running very high boost, I have seen many single cars run 18+ psi on the 2 row and have no cooling efficiency problems. Nocab72 has been running a GT35/40 for 3+ years with a 2-row, putting down dyno'd 450hp. If your planning to run 20+ PSI or a BIG single, T-78, T51KAI, GT40R, or larger, the 3 row would be a better idea.
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Originally Posted by Rotarded
That information is incorrect. While you can start to lose efficiency with a large single running very high boost, I have seen many single cars run 18+ psi on the 2 row and have no cooling efficiency problems. Nocab72 has been running a GT35/40 for 3+ years with a 2-row, putting down dyno'd 450hp. If your planning to run 20+ PSI or a BIG single, T-78, T51KAI, GT40R, or larger, the 3 row would be a better idea.

I figured it could handle more, the reason I brought it up is because thats what Greddy claims(15psi) I personally think that the 2 row would be good up to 500hp. I often see people selling single turbo FD's with a gt35r and there using the stock intercooler, I have even seen a T-78 plumbed into a Greddy stock mount intercooler, to me that does not look right. But people use it.....

I got a Greddy t88, I will use the Greddy 2 row to run 14psi on pump gas(94oct).

But I was thinking if I did spray the IC with water or co2 or a water/alcohol mix during a stop (before a drag race, and after)

Whats preventing me from running 30psi through a 2row, and still getting good air temps? Keeping in mind that this would only be used (30psi) when drag racing, and the IC would be sprayed before the race and after.

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Originally Posted by olyrx7
Whats preventing me from running 30psi through a 2row, and still getting good air temps? Keeping in mind that this would only be used (30psi) when drag racing, and the IC would be sprayed before the race and after.
At 30 psi, your cooling efficiency would be so poor that, should your intake air get hot enough, you could run the risk of detonation. Cooling your IC before the run will not last long enough to do you any good during the run. Afterwards will serve no purpose.

You really should go with a 3-row for your turbo/PSI goals.
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^^^^^^ thats why you have water injection
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^^^^^^ thats why you have water injection....
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Originally Posted by rosrex7


here is mine...

anybody know what size diameter are they and also for the reducers that connect to the FMIC its self. got the greddy 2 row. ?

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