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Old 12-11-02, 05:53 AM
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Question Greddy 2-row FMIC Owners

I need pics and details of the install

Which intake did you go with?

Battery relocation?

A/C retention? How does the A/C work (same, worse)?

Koyo rad compatibility? Could you use Thermal Flex silicone rad hose that was used for the stock rad location? What hoses did you use when you moved the rad vertically?

Thanks in advance for the replies.

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check out this site http://flathat.woodstream.net/RX7/
there is a good write up by one of the forum members and alot of pics of the install
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I didn't have to relocate my battery, but I did replace it with a 51R type used on Hondas. These battery are alot lighter and slimmer than the OEM type that we use.

As far as the intake goes, I just used two K&N filters with a 2.25" opening that is no longer than lenght of 7" long. All of the other hose I left alone. No filter.
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Are there two different styles of the Greddy FMIC?

Here's Rx7.Com's website pic http://www.rx7.com/pics/fd-greddy-front-ic1.jpg

Here's Jason Baughman's pic of the Greddy FMICs he offers through Rx7 Store.net http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=215&1=301&3=417

Can someone tell me which is the better style to have? I see there's a price difference as well. Rx7.Com is $1078. Jason's is $950 stock elbow, stock y-pipe kit ($128 cheaper)?

What's the difference between 2 row and 3 row intercoolers??
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what boost are you planning on running? 2 rows become ineficient after 1bar.
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looks like the pic from the store is the 3 row. thats what i am using. requires much cutting of the bumper cover. looks good installed. you get a PS and AC relocation hardware with the kit. i did not use the AC part of mine as i have not had AC for a long time. also come with a bracket for mounting the battery a different angle. ( i di not use this either as my battery is in the rear). it allows for you to bolt the radiator mounts (these are also included) to the frame where the stock battery WAS.
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Originally posted by SleepR1
Are there two different styles of the Greddy FMIC?

Here's Rx7.Com's website pic http://www.rx7.com/pics/fd-greddy-front-ic1.jpg

Here's Jason Baughman's pic of the Greddy FMICs he offers through Rx7 Store.net http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=215&1=301&3=417

Can someone tell me which is the better style to have? I see there's a price difference as well. Rx7.Com is $1078. Jason's is $950 stock elbow, stock y-pipe kit ($128 cheaper)?

What's the difference between 2 row and 3 row intercoolers??
The picture off the RP site is the old Greddy FMIC. Its a 3 row and sits farther back in the engine bay. I think they still sell that.

The one off my site is the newer version 2 row intercooler. Greddy also has a newer version 3 row that looks identical to the 2 row, just thicker.

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SleepR1 - here are pics and narrative of my install (still had twins back then)

http://flathat.woodstream.net/RX7/Docs/Greddy_FMIC.html (narrative)
http://flathat.woodstream.net/RX7/Greddy_FMIC_Install/ (lots of pics)

Let me know if you have any specific questions, I'll be glad to share my experiences...

BTW: Next time I think of it, I'm going to take a picture of my FMIC now that I've logged 10k road miles on it so you can see how much (or little) road debris has done to it. It's really not that bad, for some reason the oil cooler seems to be much much worse...

K

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Kyle,

Did you modify the Apexi intake at all?

What do you think of the Greddy Airinx? I'm not crazy about the foam, but the Greddy Airinx hardpipe kit would be worth the going with Greddy intake??

BTW, what would you charge to do mine
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Originally posted by SleepR1
Kyle,

Did you modify the Apexi intake at all?

What do you think of the Greddy Airinx? I'm not crazy about the foam, but the Greddy Airinx hardpipe kit would be worth the going with Greddy intake??

I did not have to modify the actual Apexi intakes, I did however do some customization on the piping to get the apexi intakes to "sit" in acceptable spots.

1) top intake, I cut the stock intake hose (plastic) just behind the flexiable portion of it then attached one of the apexi intakes directly which moved the intake "back" (basically shortened it by about 6 - 8").

2) the bottom intake I used a 2 1/2" 180 degree elbow from home depot (which I later painted black and was not even noticable). One end of the elbow went over
the turbo intake, the other directly to the second apexi intake.

You can see both (unpainted 180" elbow and shortened stock intake hose) in this picture here along with vented BOV.

http://flathat.woodstream.net/RX7/Gr...l/P5120097.JPG

I say *bleck* to the Greddy Airinx, but have no experience with it.

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Originally posted by SleepR1

BTW, what would you charge to do mine
I'm sure Zavier & Jason would make you a deal on installation if you bought the FMIC though them and can get your car to Columbus...
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Seems like a mod to me

Probably will go with the Greddy Airinx?? I like the hard pipes anyway, I just hope to get red or black foam, not that sick yellow foam!!!

What to do Zavier and Jason charge per hour labor? BTW is that Jason Baughman? If that is, then great, cuz my plan was to order the 2-row from Rx7Store.Net...

Actually would the 3-row fit for a twin turbo FD?? Why does Jason only sell a 2-row for us twin turbo "schmucks"
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Yes, I was talking RX7store.net Zavier and Jason.

3 row comes with pipes for single turbo applications.

2 row comes with pipes to connect to the stock y-pipe or efini-y

not sure that you can order them with alternate pipes from Greddy. I had my 2 row pipe custom welded to connect to my GT35/40, seen here: http://flathat.woodstream.net/RX7/Bling/

BTW: I'm using a real filter now, but don't have a picture of it.

K
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Manny, just buy the Greddy intake, and put K&N filters instead of the foam. Best of both worlds this way.

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Eric,

Do you ditch the Greddy Airinx cool polished foam screens? Those are so bling bling Wait, that means I'll need to spend MORE money on the cone filters right ?
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Ahh! Well I'll save myself on shipping and just have Jason and Zavier put the Greddy 2-row in along with my big *** Koyo rad I bought from them!!

I'll need to see if they can do this in a day...perhaps I can roll this in with a Mid Ohio drivers education with Mid Ohio Region PCA in May 2003???

Of course if my motor is ready before May '03, I'll need to have my AIM Tuning do the job. Shane should be able to handle a FMIC install with bling bling Greddy Intake, and big *** Koyo rad, right ??

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Yes, I was talking RX7store.net Zavier and Jason.

3 row comes with pipes for single turbo applications.

2 row comes with pipes to connect to the stock y-pipe or efini-y

not sure that you can order them with alternate pipes from Greddy. I had my 2 row pipe custom welded to connect to my GT35/40, seen here: http://flathat.woodstream.net/RX7/Bling/

BTW: I'm using a real filter now, but don't have a picture of it.

K
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The old-style three row (which I think GReddy refers to as the 19R?) is no longer made although some might be floating around. There are several versions of the 2 row with different core lengths. The new three row has the aluminum piping kit that the old three row did not have. Each, except for the 32R three row can be had with piping for either the stock turbos or a GReddy turbo kit. Gets quite confusing! I would think that with the twins, a two row would do you just fine.
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Yeah but thicker is better, and I read that 3-row is THICKER Every woman loves girth
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10 to 11 psi manifold pressure. Depending on the Greddy FMIC's pressure drop, the '99 J-spec twin turbos might need to make 14 to 15 psi?

How many psi are in a bar??

I'd better go 3-row, just to be sure the J-spec turbos are pushing boost through the IC most effeciently.

Jason--dude--hook a brother up

Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
what boost are you planning on running? 2 rows become ineficient after 1bar.

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Kyle,

Could you use the stock mount radiator hoses, or did you need to buy AutoZone flexhose to work with the newly vertically aligned radiator position?

How's the A/C blasting during the summer?

How are your motor temps?

Are you running the Evans polypropylene waterless coolant in your Pineapple motor? I've read Rob won't warranty your motor UNLESS your run waterless coolant, and this coolant causes very high motor temps??
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Kyle, why didn't you go 3-row, since you have a big single turbo?
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looking at his pics he obviously had the ic first before the single turbo
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Still have 2row because I'm too lazy to remove my feed bumper and know that if I did I would NEVER get it back on lined up.

stock mount radiator hoses worked with the rad relocation, just had to cut a few inches off the top one.

A/C works fine.

Motor temps are way way lower than with the twins, probably due to so much open air space in the engine bay now.

Rob never mentioned anything to me about required coolant to comply with his warranty, but maybe that is because I got the stage 3 oil mods...?
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Sleep, be forewarned the three row is MUCH more expensive than the 2 row with the stock turbos, especially at the price Jason is offering on the two row/stock turbo setup. I went with the three row but I'm running a pretty big single.
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nocab, I asked him (Rob) over the phone when my engine was being done. He said in order to get the 5 year warranty that I should use Evans. I too have Stage 3 Oil mods (but chose not to put in the loop line for now).
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$400 more for the 3-row.

Besides the price increase over the 2-row, can you see other downsides to the 3-row?

I have Japan spec sequential twin turbos. They can make more boost efficiently than the old Hitachi twins. I'll need an IC core that will not hinder the J-spec's performance.

If Jason can get a Greddy 3-row with pipes to work with sequential turbos, I may go for it

Originally posted by rx7tt95
Sleep, be forewarned the three row is MUCH more expensive than the 2 row with the stock turbos, especially at the price Jason is offering on the two row/stock turbo setup. I went with the three row but I'm running a pretty big single.
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