Got my car back with new 99 spec twins
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Well, i'll give you an example of when someone would pick the twins over a single.
I was looking for a single set-up. Noone had one that I wanted in stock(if they did, I qouldn't be posting this). My daily driver is failing fast. Now, as stated before, going single is a lot more than the kit. My car doesn't have an upgraded radiator(which it needs), intercooler, injectors, and i'm runing the old EFI box ECU. My tranny and rear end(strictly auto speaking mind you) have a lot of miles. So, you can see the picture i'm painting here.
I'm in no way shape or form ready to properly run a single turbe set up at this point.
So, what i'm doing, is get the car up and running properly, and then add the appropriate mods to set up the eventual fitment of the single.............all on my own schedule. That means alot.
So yes, I spent money on a set of turbos, and an intercooler........both that I will probably unload for a good price to somebody later.........but i'm not running some bullshit setup, that could end up having me pop another motor. To me, i'd rather spend the more money for stability.
There you have it.
I was looking for a single set-up. Noone had one that I wanted in stock(if they did, I qouldn't be posting this). My daily driver is failing fast. Now, as stated before, going single is a lot more than the kit. My car doesn't have an upgraded radiator(which it needs), intercooler, injectors, and i'm runing the old EFI box ECU. My tranny and rear end(strictly auto speaking mind you) have a lot of miles. So, you can see the picture i'm painting here.
I'm in no way shape or form ready to properly run a single turbe set up at this point.
So, what i'm doing, is get the car up and running properly, and then add the appropriate mods to set up the eventual fitment of the single.............all on my own schedule. That means alot.
So yes, I spent money on a set of turbos, and an intercooler........both that I will probably unload for a good price to somebody later.........but i'm not running some bullshit setup, that could end up having me pop another motor. To me, i'd rather spend the more money for stability.
There you have it.
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RXestacy -Yeah mine was the red one up there Monday. Thanks! saw yours too, did you have yours painted, cuz the paint looks real good.
Labor for the install was $800, plus a few hundres bucks for misc parts. I picked the turbos up from Rotory performance and yes they are the upgraded version. Can't really directly compare the to the 93-95 turbos in performance because mine were so old. I am running 13psi on them. I am going to the dyno in November so I will post numbers.
Lots of reason why I stayed wth the twins vs going single. Mainly I didn't want to make the "other" associated mods to safely go single such a fuel system upgrades, reprograming the ecu, etc. I have spent a considerable amount of time and money trying to make my car as bullet proof as possible and I run conservative boost. Parts and labor for all that would have exceeded the cost of the new twins by a big margin. Call me crazy but I like the sequentals, its part of what makes our cars unique.
Labor for the install was $800, plus a few hundres bucks for misc parts. I picked the turbos up from Rotory performance and yes they are the upgraded version. Can't really directly compare the to the 93-95 turbos in performance because mine were so old. I am running 13psi on them. I am going to the dyno in November so I will post numbers.
Lots of reason why I stayed wth the twins vs going single. Mainly I didn't want to make the "other" associated mods to safely go single such a fuel system upgrades, reprograming the ecu, etc. I have spent a considerable amount of time and money trying to make my car as bullet proof as possible and I run conservative boost. Parts and labor for all that would have exceeded the cost of the new twins by a big margin. Call me crazy but I like the sequentals, its part of what makes our cars unique.
Originally Posted by 95FD_VA
I picked up my car last night from the shop. Had them install new 99 spec turbos, replace vacuum hoses and install some SPA digital dual gauges. All I can say is WOW. A very nice improvement over the 10 year old stock turbos (I was also having some boost issues which they addressed). The 99 spec turbos spool up faster and give me a few more lbs of boost. It’s nice to have my car running in top condition again. Performance Buyers (PBC) in Chantilly Virginia did all the work and I would definitely recommend them for DC metro area FD owners (shameless plug).
Where in NOVA are you located?
Originally Posted by 95FD_VA
RXestacy -Yeah mine was the red one up there Monday. Thanks! saw yours too, did you have yours painted, cuz the paint looks real good.
Labor for the install was $800, plus a few hundres bucks for misc parts. I picked the turbos up from Rotory performance and yes they are the upgraded version. Can't really directly compare the to the 93-95 turbos in performance because mine were so old. I am running 13psi on them. I am going to the dyno in November so I will post numbers.
Lots of reason why I stayed wth the twins vs going single. Mainly I didn't want to make the "other" associated mods to safely go single such a fuel system upgrades, reprograming the ecu, etc. I have spent a considerable amount of time and money trying to make my car as bullet proof as possible and I run conservative boost. Parts and labor for all that would have exceeded the cost of the new twins by a big margin. Call me crazy but I like the sequentals, its part of what makes our cars unique.
Labor for the install was $800, plus a few hundres bucks for misc parts. I picked the turbos up from Rotory performance and yes they are the upgraded version. Can't really directly compare the to the 93-95 turbos in performance because mine were so old. I am running 13psi on them. I am going to the dyno in November so I will post numbers.
Lots of reason why I stayed wth the twins vs going single. Mainly I didn't want to make the "other" associated mods to safely go single such a fuel system upgrades, reprograming the ecu, etc. I have spent a considerable amount of time and money trying to make my car as bullet proof as possible and I run conservative boost. Parts and labor for all that would have exceeded the cost of the new twins by a big margin. Call me crazy but I like the sequentals, its part of what makes our cars unique.
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Just curious... why didn't you opt to install the turbos yourself? Just wondering... I know there are some how to's out there... Just wondering what your reasoning is, so when I do have to get mine, if it's a PITA, I'll get it done at the shop too...
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Another issue is that in states with smog checks, such as California, you aren't going to pass the visual smog inspection with anything but the twins.
On a related note I just CA smogged my FD which has an M2 large SMIC. The smog tech told me that in CA aftermarket intercoolers don't need to be CARB exempt and that it's not a problem as long as you still have the stock turbos. I did have to remove my Greddy Profec however... ugh.
On a related note I just CA smogged my FD which has an M2 large SMIC. The smog tech told me that in CA aftermarket intercoolers don't need to be CARB exempt and that it's not a problem as long as you still have the stock turbos. I did have to remove my Greddy Profec however... ugh.
Originally Posted by DamonB
Even if you plan to run more boost and have to add fuel and ecu mods you'll still spend less money than a single turbo kit would require.
The statement I made was that going to the 99 spec will be cheaper than going single. Can you give me an example where that is not true?
The statement I made was that going to the 99 spec will be cheaper than going single. Can you give me an example where that is not true?
more so ... to indicate that its not as simple as youve stated.. "and be done"
as we all know... its a domino effect once he ventures out of stock..
Originally Posted by John Magnuson
Another issue is that in states with smog checks, such as California, you aren't going to pass the visual smog inspection with anything but the twins.
On a related note I just CA smogged my FD which has an M2 large SMIC. The smog tech told me that in CA aftermarket intercoolers don't need to be CARB exempt and that it's not a problem as long as you still have the stock turbos. I did have to remove my Greddy Profec however... ugh.
On a related note I just CA smogged my FD which has an M2 large SMIC. The smog tech told me that in CA aftermarket intercoolers don't need to be CARB exempt and that it's not a problem as long as you still have the stock turbos. I did have to remove my Greddy Profec however... ugh.
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Originally Posted by John Magnuson
On a related note I just CA smogged my FD which has an M2 large SMIC. The smog tech told me that in CA aftermarket intercoolers don't need to be CARB exempt and that it's not a problem as long as you still have the stock turbos. I did have to remove my Greddy Profec however... ugh.
Like 95FD_VA said, the twins make the RX-7's different from any other turbo. I'll probably use a set of efini turbos for a while until I get some money saved then make a custom twin turbo set-up like the aftermarket Twin Turbo Supra's have.
Also for anyone looking for these turbos, here is a link to them. http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdturbo.html
Also for anyone looking for these turbos, here is a link to them. http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdturbo.html
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Originally Posted by Tom93R1
Cool, I wanted to go 99 spec until I found a set of 5k mile 93 turbos for dirt cheap.
I can say the same thing aboutperformance of my 5000 mile new stock turbos vs. the 160k mile old turbos. I wonder how big of a difference there really is between the 93 and 99 turbos all else being equal. Does anybody have any hard numbers?
I can say the same thing aboutperformance of my 5000 mile new stock turbos vs. the 160k mile old turbos. I wonder how big of a difference there really is between the 93 and 99 turbos all else being equal. Does anybody have any hard numbers?
Guess I should of asked for more.
Glad your still enjoying them.
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Originally Posted by Stix37867
Like 95FD_VA said, the twins make the RX-7's different from any other turbo. I'll probably use a set of efini turbos for a while until I get some money saved then make a custom twin turbo set-up like the aftermarket Twin Turbo Supra's have.
Also for anyone looking for these turbos, here is a link to them. http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdturbo.html
Also for anyone looking for these turbos, here is a link to them. http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdturbo.html
Just ordered a set. I'll be installing it over the weekend.
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