FD a dying platform. Am I crazy to get one?
06-20-12, 06:56 PM
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Not so obvious! let me link you this ( from the audio visual forums ) the FD is alot more then just turbos , and the rotary engine as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQkhE...layer_embedded
06-21-12, 12:29 AM
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I bought my FD from a dealership in Vancouver, Wa in october 2011. Bone stock and it also had the original expedia tires equipped. It had just over 40k on the Odo and the compression on both rotors is well over 100psi. The only problems i've had are oil leaks, bad tire aligment and a y-pipe coupler tear. The car is an absolute beast.
My bit of advice; when you purchase this car and you want to start modding it make sure you have a clear goal in mind. You can spend alot of money on parts that dont work in conjunction or dont do the job. From what you have described it sounds like it close to a finished product. Get the FD! Turbos are fun and the insurance cost is crazy low.
Tetsuro
My bit of advice; when you purchase this car and you want to start modding it make sure you have a clear goal in mind. You can spend alot of money on parts that dont work in conjunction or dont do the job. From what you have described it sounds like it close to a finished product. Get the FD! Turbos are fun and the insurance cost is crazy low.
Tetsuro
06-21-12, 08:41 AM
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When i mentioned the FS section, it mean look at the condition and history of the cars. Its all half assed. That's why i also mentioned you need money and the proper knowledge to have an impeccable fd. Herblenny, bewstew, prew just to name a few.
It seems the general consensus is that people buy the fd because it looks nice and rare. People buy it with no knowledge and ruin the car more to its already bad engineering design.
Its a shame. The ls swap is a quick aid to that problem. And weirdly it works. But people who want originality will hate it. People who just appreciate fast cars will praise it.
Which side are you on?
06-21-12, 08:57 AM
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You should really ask yourself this question considering how quick you are to defend any other platform besides the 3rd Gen and please don't say, "oh, I'm just being honest". We like living in our fantasy world where FD's are breaking 500hp, daily driven, never break down, and first on race day!
06-21-12, 08:59 AM
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The RX-7 community alone is reason enough to make the purchase. The support here is the best I’ve seen on any site. I can search almost any issue and find a resolution.
Rotary community= Educated people who aren’t afraid to experiment
Corvette community= Try talking to one of them at a meet or online and you will get the picture.
Rotary community= Educated people who aren’t afraid to experiment
Corvette community= Try talking to one of them at a meet or online and you will get the picture.
06-21-12, 09:03 AM
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I'm not against v8s at all. I understand the swap. I understand people hating v8 cars and that's cool. I'm against people saying a swapped v8 is total junk and will ruin the car when it obviously doesn't. Sure, maybe if the v8 was actually heavy but it's not. 50/50 is still maintained and the car doesn't lose it's sense of purpose at all. I certainly like a well swapped v8 car much better than an FD with tons of speakers and a stupid paint job much better.
Haaaa! That's it I'm getting a miata.
Haaaa! That's it I'm getting a miata.
06-21-12, 11:59 AM
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Perfect.
I wish there were rotary specialty tuning shops in Oregon.
I wish there were rotary specialty tuning shops in Oregon.
Deal is made, I will be taking delivery in early july.
And yeah, as it sits the FD has 2 manual boost controllers keeping the boost at 8-6-8 until PFC and fuel pump etc can be safely upgraded. Those mods + stock computer = boom.
Probably will take it down to R3 in Santa Ana to have it tuned and dialed. Here we go.
And yeah, as it sits the FD has 2 manual boost controllers keeping the boost at 8-6-8 until PFC and fuel pump etc can be safely upgraded. Those mods + stock computer = boom.
Probably will take it down to R3 in Santa Ana to have it tuned and dialed. Here we go.
06-21-12, 01:23 PM
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You should really ask yourself this question considering how quick you are to defend any other platform besides the 3rd Gen and please don't say, "oh, I'm just being honest". We like living in our fantasy world where FD's are breaking 500hp, daily driven, never break down, and first on race day!
Btw the last statement about which side are you on wasn't towards Supernaut, it was to everyone.
Fact is, you obviously can't ask what platform is good because this is an rx7 forum. Its going to be 90% biased. This thread proves it once again..
Valid "opinions" have to come from people who explored them all. Not a person who only had an fd as their first sports car and say yeah that's the best one. Doesn't work like that.
06-22-12, 03:35 PM
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Deal is made, I will be taking delivery in early july.
And yeah, as it sits the FD has 2 manual boost controllers keeping the boost at 8-6-8 until PFC and fuel pump etc can be safely upgraded. Those mods + stock computer = boom.
Probably will take it down to R3 in Santa Ana to have it tuned and dialed. Here we go.
And yeah, as it sits the FD has 2 manual boost controllers keeping the boost at 8-6-8 until PFC and fuel pump etc can be safely upgraded. Those mods + stock computer = boom.
Probably will take it down to R3 in Santa Ana to have it tuned and dialed. Here we go.
07-02-12, 02:01 AM
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I wouldn't say its a dying platform, being from canada I own 3 RHD FD's and I've had no problems finding parts for them at all, I know possibly the LHD interior parts might be harder to find because there was limited production of them, but basically everything else is the same besides a few things like downpipe, etc.. Theirs no other car like the rx7 period.
07-03-12, 01:13 PM
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The only parts on the FD that I worry about not being able to get are interior and exterior rubber/plastic. Basically the stuff that weathers and wears and was kind of cheesey from the factory. Mechanicals will always have support although the prices may go up. I think simplified sequential solenoid systems will continue to be developed. Plastics and rubber, thats my only concern.
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07-04-12, 01:43 PM
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The RX-7 community alone is reason enough to make the purchase. The support here is the best I’ve seen on any site. I can search almost any issue and find a resolution.
Rotary community= Educated people who aren’t afraid to experiment
Corvette community= Try talking to one of them at a meet or online and you will get the picture.
Rotary community= Educated people who aren’t afraid to experiment
Corvette community= Try talking to one of them at a meet or online and you will get the picture.
I don't think the FD will ever be a collector car, personally. The rotary is too high maintenance. You can jump in a 57 Chevy and start a motor after sitting for 8 months. Can't say the same for an rx7, and old rich guy isn't looking for a car that is going to break if you don't understand ecu tunning and wide band o2 sensors.
07-04-12, 02:05 PM
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High maintenance does not deter most people from collector cars if it is a vehicle that they are passionate about. Most collector cars are high maintenance regardless of reliability. All the time spent keeping them pristine counts as well. Aside from American classics and some Japanese classics most older vehicles require some commitment.
07-04-12, 08:28 PM
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My 2 cents..
OP, There are plenty of parts still available for FDs and I believe for a long time to come. There are few cars out there where you can change pretty much everything aftermarket if you want to.. and even V8s if you like.
And talking about V8... I'm from the land of V8s and seen V8 swaps since it was popularized by Hinson. One of my best friend in town had one and after just over a month later, he bought a C5 Z06. He's reasoning, why spend the money when you can pick up a more modern car for similar price. I'm not against the swap but since the swap, I've seen LSx swapped FDs everywhere and at the same time they have separated this community into two (except few). I've invited those LSx 7 owners to my event for years and this year only one showed up. Bottomline, people should respect what they do to these cars, but in my opinion, if I were to put a LSx into an FD, I would just go buy a C6 Z06... And If I wanted a reliable fun car with pistons, I would go buy an Elise, S2k, Evo, Sti, or many many other fun piston cars before I put one into an FD.
And regarding NSX... well, many of you know how I feel about them..
OP, There are plenty of parts still available for FDs and I believe for a long time to come. There are few cars out there where you can change pretty much everything aftermarket if you want to.. and even V8s if you like.
And talking about V8... I'm from the land of V8s and seen V8 swaps since it was popularized by Hinson. One of my best friend in town had one and after just over a month later, he bought a C5 Z06. He's reasoning, why spend the money when you can pick up a more modern car for similar price. I'm not against the swap but since the swap, I've seen LSx swapped FDs everywhere and at the same time they have separated this community into two (except few). I've invited those LSx 7 owners to my event for years and this year only one showed up. Bottomline, people should respect what they do to these cars, but in my opinion, if I were to put a LSx into an FD, I would just go buy a C6 Z06... And If I wanted a reliable fun car with pistons, I would go buy an Elise, S2k, Evo, Sti, or many many other fun piston cars before I put one into an FD.
And regarding NSX... well, many of you know how I feel about them..
a) We werent welcome
b) We'd catch so much **** that even if we were officially welcomed it wouldnt be worth dealing with all the asshats ruining my time down there.
If V8's are welcome and the die hard rotary guys aren't *** hats (assuming you arent an asshat to them first, which I wouldnt be ) I know myself and someone else might come next year
07-05-12, 03:43 AM
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It is not intention to offend anyone..but.. Seems that v8 guys miss rotary engine and turbo , come on be a man and admit it. I see lots of them try to justify their decision lot more than you would expect from someone who is actually happy. It eats them from inside. It is like they cheated on their wife or something 
... I don't blame and judge, v8 has it's benefits. One guy gave me a ride in V8 rx7 and honestly I could not say I was impressed with the ride... more disappointed. He said it was about 400hp, if I remember right ls2. It was such a weird feeling ...V8 in 7... really? not for me... But, generally I go after how I feel about something, and not if it is smart.
, come on be a man and admit it. I see lots of them try to justify their decision lot more than you would expect from someone who is actually happy. It eats them from inside. It is like they cheated on their wife or something ... I don't blame and judge, v8 has it's benefits. One guy gave me a ride in V8 rx7 and honestly I could not say I was impressed with the ride... more disappointed. He said it was about 400hp, if I remember right ls2. It was such a weird feeling ...V8 in 7... really? not for me... But, generally I go after how I feel about something, and not if it is smart.
07-05-12, 08:21 AM
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Wait... so V8 swapped Rx7's are "allowed" at DGRR? Do the owners catch alot of ****? I'd love to come, but I thought:
a) We werent welcome
b) We'd catch so much **** that even if we were officially welcomed it wouldnt be worth dealing with all the asshats ruining my time down there.
If V8's are welcome and the die hard rotary guys aren't *** hats (assuming you arent an asshat to them first, which I wouldnt be ) I know myself and someone else might come next year
a) We werent welcome
b) We'd catch so much **** that even if we were officially welcomed it wouldnt be worth dealing with all the asshats ruining my time down there.
If V8's are welcome and the die hard rotary guys aren't *** hats (assuming you arent an asshat to them first, which I wouldnt be ) I know myself and someone else might come next year
Everyone with a 7 is welcome, along with any other car for that matter.
07-05-12, 09:50 AM
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i'm still dying to get an rx7 and spec it up to 02.. just kinda waiting on work to settle me down somewhere -
there's no car today that has everything the 93-02 rx-7 has in one package:
- good looks (still one of the prettiest cars today in '02 form.. except the rear)
- rwd
- lightweight, handles well
- good weight distribution
- quick
probably the closest thing would be the cayman.. which i'm not a fan of in terms of looks.. the brz/ft86 look okay, but they are waaay too slow (experienced at autox). if a ~250hp turbocharged version comes out it may be worth taking a look, but despite the common talk, the brz limited (the only trim worth getting) still hits almost 3000lbs, and just isn't as pretty as an rx7
there's no car today that has everything the 93-02 rx-7 has in one package:
- good looks (still one of the prettiest cars today in '02 form.. except the rear)
- rwd
- lightweight, handles well
- good weight distribution
- quick
probably the closest thing would be the cayman.. which i'm not a fan of in terms of looks.. the brz/ft86 look okay, but they are waaay too slow (experienced at autox). if a ~250hp turbocharged version comes out it may be worth taking a look, but despite the common talk, the brz limited (the only trim worth getting) still hits almost 3000lbs, and just isn't as pretty as an rx7
07-05-12, 04:30 PM
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if the FD a dying platform i dont think so, while many people who are going to build them have already built them there is still tons of room for mods. for example 20B's are starting to become more common and an FD with a street ported 20B and a large turbo is a street car that many cant touch. while its an older platform I still love it, its that pure sense of driving no traction control no driving aid besides ABS its just a pure blast to drive. i have owned everything from hunks of junk to 400AWHP STI to a built turbo 450WHP 350Z while they were a blast to drive and own and of course more modern than the FD i still own not one but 2 FD's and i plan to make improvements to mine and eventually pass it on as "dads" car to my kids when that time comes.
07-05-12, 06:10 PM
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I'd be approaching the event as a cool collection of CARS, not rotaries. Granted, most all would be rotary powered, but that doesnt bother me. I dont hate the engine
07-05-12, 07:21 PM
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It is not intention to offend anyone..but.. Seems that v8 guys miss rotary engine and turbo , come on be a man and admit it. I see lots of them try to justify their decision lot more than you would expect from someone who is actually happy. It eats them from inside. It is like they cheated on their wife or something ... I don't blame and judge, v8 has it's benefits. One guy gave me a ride in V8 rx7 and honestly I could not say I was impressed with the ride... more disappointed. He said it was about 400hp, if I remember right ls2. It was such a weird feeling ...V8 in 7... really? not for me... But, generally I go after how I feel about something, and not if it is smart.
, come on be a man and admit it. I see lots of them try to justify their decision lot more than you would expect from someone who is actually happy. It eats them from inside. It is like they cheated on their wife or something ... I don't blame and judge, v8 has it's benefits. One guy gave me a ride in V8 rx7 and honestly I could not say I was impressed with the ride... more disappointed. He said it was about 400hp, if I remember right ls2. It was such a weird feeling ...V8 in 7... really? not for me... But, generally I go after how I feel about something, and not if it is smart.For a daily driver and practicality, the v8 STOMPS on the rotary, PERIOD.
Nothing anyone can say, besides their personal preference and opinion can say otherwise. The LS has more torque, more USABLE torque, gets more MPG, more reliable and can make more power with bolt ons from factory, PERIOD.
You say you werent impressed with the v8. So if the same FD had 400hp from a rotary, you would be impressed??
So i assume you like no torque til about 4000, then getting whiplash til about 8500rpm?
Or do you like whiplash IMMEDIATELY the moment your right foot touches the throttle, in ANY gear, at any RPM??
Your logic is flawed. You dont like v8's fine, but just by saying you werent impressed with a 400hp FD, because it had a v8, and you're talking nonsense.
400hp in an FD, ANY engine, is incredible. Its the power/torque delivery that what makes it even MORE incredible.
And 400hp from a V8 in an FD is more incredible.
07-05-12, 08:00 PM
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Fair enough. I was a bit harsh and my wording was in fact, incorrect.
I didnt mean to say his logic was flawed, just HIS wording as well. 400hp v8 in an FD, "disappointed"???
Thats almost like a guy who has an ugly *** wife saying, "nah i dont want to bang pam anderson, she's not my type".
Its like a guy brainwashed himself to think a certain way because he/she cant/doesnt have what "might" be better.
I didnt mean to say his logic was flawed, just HIS wording as well. 400hp v8 in an FD, "disappointed"???
Thats almost like a guy who has an ugly *** wife saying, "nah i dont want to bang pam anderson, she's not my type".
Its like a guy brainwashed himself to think a certain way because he/she cant/doesnt have what "might" be better.