Flybye

Everyone gets their cars from different sources. These numbers are from a HUGE auction center in PA. I mean, this place almost looks like the parking lot at Disney This place prints out market reports that most dealers tend to go by. You will never know exactly what a dealer payed for it. He may have gotten it in as a trade in. He have have purchased it at an auction. He may have purchased it from ANOTHER dealer that got it in as a trade in.

Honestly, if you find an FD for x price, and its in PERFECT condition, but you think it's too expensive, then shop some more. After you realize that this PERFECT FD is the ONLY perfect one you have come across, you probably arent going to even want to bother to negotiate the price. Of course, it COULD be gone by the time you finish doing your shopping. Some other dood that was also shopping realized that was the perfect FD and swiped it from you. It's a game. You aren't shopping for a Camry where you will find dozens of out there.

There are several different sources for retail prices. KBB being one of them, the obnoxious black books being another one, and the NADA books being the main one dealers go by.

mazdaspeed00

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k thanks for the info ill keep that in mind when shopping for my FD

Brad Fielder

KBB prices are only what other dealers are "asking" for a vehicle, so on most vehicles the KBB are way overpriced. As for our RX-7's KBB has my car valued at $19,465 (retail value), I just sold the car for $21,000 + 2,000 (shipping)= $23,000. I firmly believe that I could have sold the car for a significant amount more if I lived in the continental U.S. (unfortunately for me I live in Alaska). The car was a '93 Touring Model with only 9561 original miles, other than the infamous '93 paint chips the car was perfect. I don't think that the businesses that rate the value of used cars car can realistically take into account the extremly small amount of cars that weren't sucessful when they were produced, that have for what ever reason found a fanatical following since the production of the car has ceased. I sold a '95 Thunderbird SC back in '99 for $6000 over NADA value, again another car that wasn't a success (why else would the producer stop making the car), that has a found a loyal following since it's demise.
Brad

pp13bnos

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Shoot, when i was looking to buy a FD, most of the time when i would go to look at the car, it would allready be sold. This happend like 3 times.

I talked to a dealer (They deal in nothing but Porshes, ferraris, and other rare cars.) about FDs and he said he buy one anytime he had a chance. He said they sold faster than %90 of the cars that came onto the lot. CJ

turbojeff

iTrader: (30)

Flybye,

Please check your #s. You've got wholesale higher than resale in a few cases. That isn't the way the book works, maybe you just switched them around? The bank said they would loan ~$19.5 on my car in Feb.

CJ,

Was Jeff B's FD one of those that you looked at and was sold? I remember you and Jeff were looking at the same time. I looked at your car too. How's that IC anyway?

Later,
Jeff

Rix7

This reminds me of the time when my friend was looking to buy a VR-4. Me and one of my friends first saw the VR-4 he has now at a Mitsubishi dealership with a big ax hack out of the front bumper and bald tires among a few other little abnormalities (broken glove box lid, etc.). Anyway, he went to go look at it a few days later and it was already gone. We found out later that another dealership about 30 miles away bought it from the Mitsu. dealership and fixed up all of the problems by the time we found that VR-4 again. Anyway....

I was very impatient when I bought my FD and went for the first one I found, but I had a very small price range in mind and knew I couldn't pass the deal up if I didn't want to wait months to get an FD. I had been looking around for quite a while in ads and what not, but it was the first one I seriously looked into. The guy who was selling said there were several others looking into the car, but none would put the money down for it. Didn't know if that was the truth or just a scam to get me to decide quicker. I guess overall I don't regret my decision to get that particular FD.

pp13bnos

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That was #3 that was sold.

The ic is a realy nice unit, except for the silicone couplers. They're just a wee bit to short, so it does'nt look perfect. But its a realy tight fit with a stock battery. I need to buy a battery case from you, but i have a big lack of $$ right now. CJ

ttpowerd

Don't know how many times this has happened to me