I used to own a TT GTO (Same as the 3000 GT) in Hong Kong.

The GTO definately felt faster than the FD but that could be just the torque due to more cubes? But you feel the weight when you entered corners.

I ended up selling due to electrical problems that just kept creeping up and took many hours of diagnostic time. Mitsubishi dealers were scratching their heads too.

Nice comfortable car though. AWD launches are awesome!

J.

 

Well, they do weigh less, and can make more power. Kind of a win, win thing.

 

RX7

- Genuine sports car package
- Has world class handling
- Impressive acceleration and braking.
- Cockpit is tight for some with little storage/carrying capacity. Strictly a two seater.
- Engine tends to have a shorter life than most. Turbos and control system may need major work after 75K miles and definitely after 100K miles.


3000GT (VR4)

- Attractive styling
- 320 HP (but offset by excessive weight)
- High tech driveline (four wheel steer/drive)
- Very expensive to maintain.
- Kind of gimicky.

You pick

 

Damn guys, i thought this thread was done with, lol. BUt THANKS alot all of you for all your opinions and rundowns of each car, personal experiences or not. ya took the time and i thanks you for that. also the Gt/stealth guys too, its good to get both sids of the story. But i guess what it comes down to is personal preference and i think we all know where i stand on that. Thanks again, Ill keep ya updated if i ever find the right one. Also i DO have a veryy good shop nearby...Aspec Tuning

 

I've read through the posts, and haven't seen it mentioned a lot, so I'll say it again. Mitsubishi is refered to as Satan for a reason. Most of the dealers a) charge outrageous prices, or b) don't know what they are doing.

 

hahahahahaha. sucks for him.

make way folks, we gots an expert here.

Amen.

LMAO. so true.

so a 13b can make more power than a 6g72tt? i'd like to see this theory tested

and as far as the tranny problems are concerned... the reputation comes mainly from the 91-92's, which have weak 18 spline transfer cases. in late 93 they switched to a 25 spline t case which made them much more durable.

bottom line: if you want a fast as hell street car that is reasonably reliable and can hold its own on the track, get the vr4. if you want a mega badass track car, get the rx7.

 

If you don't live close to a knowledgeable and reputable RX7 shop, don't buy it!

I'm onto my second RX7 and I also own a BPU++ Supra TT, a 4wd Escort Cosworth that I don't think thing you have in the States and a POS R32GTR. The Supra TT is super reliable and blindingly fast even with stock turbos. You play, you shut her down and when you start her up the next morning, she performs at the same level and holds the same boost at each rpm like clockwork without missing a beat. Can you say that about the Rex? I'm onto my second RX7 after selling the first one off a year and a half ago and perhaps my experience are unique, the answer is a resounding No.

Is the Supra a better car? No. Even with the driver in the car, you still feel the CG is still very much in front of the driver. In the corners, you feel that the driver is not turning with the car but rather the car is turning the driver. Exagerrating the situation a lot and you'll almost feel like you're the rear seat passenger. That's nothing you can do to reduce that weight upfront and that's why in the JTCC races, they use the 3S-GTE 4 banger instead. Turn in doesn't inspire confidence and ona turn that I'd normally take at 130kph with the Supra, I can do 150 in the Cosworth with tires screeching and absolutely no sweat at 160 with the FD with room to spare. Perhaps I'm just chicken and never dared to take the Supra to the limits and perhaps I'm a crap driver but that's my observation.

With the FD, the CG feels right about where the driver sits. You know instinctively in a FD what the fronts and rears are doing. Hence despite all the grieve I had with FD ownership, I'm onto my second FD. And even though that POS engine blew an o-ring on me on my third day of ownership, I'll still keep it. The Cosworth has a short wheel base like the FD but it's handling comes from the 4wd not from inherent good dynamics. From point to point though, it's probably the quickest and most relaxed car of the bunch to drive and to save. As for that POS GTR, it gives me so much problem with its never ending electrical problems that I'll seriously trade it for a mint condition 2nd gen CRX. As a fun car, nothing beats the RX7.

Sorry for the long post, my enthusiasm gets the better of me when people starts comparing the Rex and the Supra :0 They should not be compared as they're totally different animals.

 

Okay, what I said in the last paragraph makes me a hypocrite. I'll take it back

 

We have several members just on this board that are making 600-700+ rwhp, thats to the wheels mind you.
How many guys put numbers like that down with the 6g72tt?

 

what kind of drivetrain loss do rx7s have? you cant really compare wheel hp between the two cars for an accurate comparison of engine output. also, how much boost are those cars running? with under 30 psi, 6g72tt's can put out over 900 bhp. they actually produce more power than supra engines with similar setups, so i guess if 13bs can make more power than 6g72tt's, they also outpower 2jzgte's.

 

All that matters is the hp that gets to the ground and the wheels, while that info Twin Turbos posted on the 3/S board is great, I also take it with a grain of salt, because

a)the dude is a liar
b)he has no shown no proof what so ever.

Remember this is the same guy that said he did 180+ mph on a stock Stealth.
He also said he had a FD and got rid of it because the engine rotors warped.
So while he posted some nice numbers, it is by no means taken as the final word.
In fact I called BS on the board and for some reason it was deleted.
If you posted those numbers on here or the Supra board, I would hardly think they would care, in the end its their cars that are still faster.

If you guys put down so much power why not any 9 second cars???

 

BTW: That argument of the motor making more hp reminds me of ricers saying their car makes more hp per liter. In the end it doesn't matter because their car is still slower.

 

um...right. you claimed that the engine output of a modded 13b is higher than that of a 6g72tt. i say youre wrong. now youre trying to change what you said. rriiiiiiiiiight. the fact that rx7s are lighter and have less drivetrain loss is what makes them faster, NOT the fact that the engines are more powerful.

 

Can you prove otherwise????
Didn't think so.

 

If the engine is oh so powerful wouldn't you be able to make up for the weight disadvantage???
Now I'll say it again, how many dyno plots do you have of 3/S cars making 600+ hp????
Maybe one or two at the most???

 

ok, whatever, you're absolutely right, a 1.3L rotory can generate much more power than a 3.0L 6 cyl. what was i thinking.

hold on, ill be right back after i inform everyone who makes performance cars with 6 cyl. engines that they're doing everything all wrong.