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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Thumbs down F u pilot bearing!!

Ok so i bought a bearing puller, and it ended up making my situation worse. Now i am curently chipping it out of the shaft.

I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on how i can speed up this process or make it easyer.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Look up the toilet paper trick.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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yeah i have read that one but the problem is, that the puller i used ended up pushing it back way far and got grease everywhere. I wish i would have herd about the toilet paper trick befor i started screwing with it.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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I have the Mazda Specialty Tool and it works flawlessly every time. Doesn't help you much right now, but it may in the future.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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for sure next time i will be buying one, sucks i have to drive two hours to a mazda dealer though.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Dremel and a punch. I had to do it last weekend. Just cut a line down it but just before you go all the way through stop and take a hammer and a punch and it should crack and take a pick or flat head and pry it out. You gota fool with it.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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You'd be better off just mailing me your e-shaft and I'd do it for ya
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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^lol. Yea it was a PITA to get it out i had a puller(engine was a orginal 88 turbo that sat for awhile) and ended up breaking the needle bearings and crap then i spent like an hour looking at it then i got out a roto zip and cut it and hit it with a screw driver and got it out. It took too long
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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how did you cutt it with the dremal, im confused seems like you cant cutt down the length
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Well if you have one of those carbide bits the one that kinda looks like a drill bit. I had a roto zip which is bigger so think a dremel would be better. Then just cut into it to make a slice down the middle. But if it is really far in there there are pencil drills or the pencil drill adaptor for the dremel.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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well ill give it a shot
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Just DONT cut into the E-shaft !



later
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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i will try my best not to screw it up
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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mmmm.... This could get dangerous. Although unfortuneately I do not have any ideas for you at the moment.....
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I have the Mazda Specialty Tool and it works flawlessly every time. Doesn't help you much right now, but it may in the future.
+1. Works great.


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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by oo7arkman
mmmm.... This could get dangerous. Although unfortuneately I do not have any ideas for you at the moment.....
Yeah not to mention im doinging it when my car is on jack stands, i should have just been patent and ordered the puller from mazda.

Why do it the easy way when you can do it the hard way.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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My engine was out of the car
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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When you get it out, run some emory cloth around in there to smooth the surface down.


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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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i must not have got all the other bearing out because when i put in the new one the bearing did not spin. This is turning into a nightmear, i am going to pop that one out and try to figure out what the heck was still in there. I did not see anything before, obviosly it put extra preasure on the bearing not alowing it to spin properly.

I read something on pinapple racing, they have some jig that you cut the e shaft wider and insert a bigger pilot. I went to there site and didnt see the tool, my guess is it never really got used so they didnt produce them.

well i hope i wont have to go that rout, now im going to go try to use the toilet paper method to get the new bearing out. If that doesnt work i am going to just buy the mazda tool.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Is there any harm in coating the outside of the bearing in anti-seize before reinstallation?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Ok so i was pretty skeptical on the tp method, not anymore it worked like a charm! I dont even think i would buy the tool just cuz why would you when the tp method costs nuthing.

Well now that i got it out the inner race of the bearing was still seized like before so i am going to have to get a new bearing.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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how'd you do the tp method?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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I found a bolt that was about the same size as the imput shaft, i added some electercal tape to make a tighter fit. then you just rip off some toilet paper dip in some water fill it full to the front of the bearing and hammer it in and keep adding tp as you go and it will pop right out.

I wish i would have herd about this method sooner i would be done with my clutch by now
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Interesting, like a pseudo hydraulic press of sorts... Cool idea, I can definitely see it working as long as you get a nice tight seal around the bolt.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JHew84
Interesting, like a pseudo hydraulic press of sorts... Cool idea, I can definitely see it working as long as you get a nice tight seal around the bolt.
It is much better than the grease method cuz the grease will creap through any little crack. the toiletpaper doesnt need as tight of a seal.
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