Elite Rotary Shop V-Mount Experience?
 

I could not find any threads or posts referencing experiences with this kit. Curious if anybody here has commissioned one of these kits from Elite and can speak to their experience with it.
- Performance?
- Core type?
- Fitment?
- Quality of ducting?
- Sacrifices (A/C?, Battery?, etc..)
- Clearance for radiator?
- Radiator modified for easy draining?

I've seen pictures of it, but haven't gotten first hand information or seen it in person. Here's the page for it -

https://www.eliterotaryshop.com/air-...d-v-mount.html

My concern is it's $5 shy of $3,000 and you get get any number of the Japanese V-mount kits for less. HKS is about $2000, RE-Amemiya is about $2500, Greddy about $2800.

Dale

I can't comment about the Elite VMount either... but I will say, a lot of the Japanese tuners have missed the mark in recent years on product. But GReddy hit the nail on the head with this. They really set the standard with their new V-Mount kit. The core, the radiator, the cast end tanks / pipes, the ducting - it's really the total package.

This is a big ticket item and two critical components of your engine. Don't think saving $200 is doing yourself any favors. Skip the cool shift knob and get the GReddy VMount.

Greddy V-Mount all day long, it comes with everything needed for installation.

Thank you, gents. The word I received is that the Greddy kit is on back order until March currently, so I figured I might as well investigate the quality of some of the other players in this space. And Elite does make a kick ass set of intake manifolds. But praise for the Greddy kit is seemingly without end.

March will be here before we all know it. :icon_tup:

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Wait for it. It's worth it.

Or maybe even reach out to RHDJapan.com

Just make sure you order the right one. If you're running stock turbos and an Efini Y-Pipe you're gonna want the kit that fits the Efini Y-Pipe, which is technically the 1996+. However, you may require the older A/C extension harness if you're running A/C. BEST bet is to contact a vendor to make sure you get the right stuff. It's not rocket science, but it is nuanced.

Good luck! :icon_tup:

At RHD Japan the RE Amemiya and KnightSports kits are comparable prices and are top quality.

However neither is as complete as the Greddy Kit (i would say it is the best value kit by far)........or you could go all out and buy the Revolution one.......:bigthumb:

If you are in a huge rush we have one of the HKS V-mounts in stock. I would recommend that you just wait for the Greddy since it is the most complete, best fitting kit on the market

Thank you for letting me know. I'm not really in a rush, just figured I would try to learn more about some local options since it wasn't immediately available. I am going to take yours and others advice on this one. Thanks!

Bump - would like to know now that we're into summer if anyone has experience with this.

The description on the site ( https://www.eliterotaryshop.com/air-...d-v-mount.html ) is pretty vague, and the pictures don't show any radiator hoses included, or much of anything?

Fritz Flynn is the only member I know of who has the Elite V-mount. It is in his track car though so I don't know know if it would be a good representation of how complete it is when compared to the Greddy.

Looks like budget garbage at high end prices, comes with a hacked up Koyo, and does not include piping. If you are on a budget, even the ebay CXracing v-mount is better designed. As stated earlier, the Greddy kit is the most complete, well designed v-mount kit on the market right now.

Greddy kit
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a6eedc9fe4.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...22ea0af281.jpg

Thumbs up on the GReddy kit.

I would say it's the best kit of any kind I've ever bought for this car... you don't need to put "kit" in quotes. It's complete, really well thought out, and everything fits exactly as its supposed to, whereas almost everything else I've ever purchased required some grinding or hand fitment, or sourcing of hardware, etc.

I did have to re-reroute one radiator hose because it interfered with the intake filter piping on my EFR kit, but that wouldn't have been foreseeable by GReddy.

Would you mind expanding on this a bit more, particularly in regards to the KS kit? I've always heard the GReddy kit was the best, but I'm a knightsports fanboy, so I've always wanted it So I'm very curious as to the real shortcomings of that kit in compared to the GReddy

Here is an old writeup on the Knightsports install -

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...p-pics-703433/

It's just shy of $3k from RHDJapan.com

The Greddy kit includes intakes as well and is a little cheaper.

Most any kit will require some custom work if you have a single turbo and pretty much all the Japanese V-mount kits will require a good amount of work to keep the AC. American AC systems have enough differences that it can be a pretty substantial chore.

I think the Greddy kit has just gotten a lot of traction since it's reasonably priced, well-built, and installs nicely. Many have bought and installed them now so there's a lot of comfort with that kit. Looking through that install the Knightsports kit looks similar in quality and fitment, but any time you're doing THAT level of work on the car it's going to be a big job.

You can definitely do a V-mount cheaper but it means TONS more fab work. Hell, you can burn half a day just making a little bracket to mount something.

A lot of the shops like these kits due to that reason - they get it for a customer, install quickly in a reasonable amount of time, and they know it's going to be rock solid and the customer will go home happy.

Dale

I ended up purchasing the Greddy kit after starting this thread. It wasn't available stateside at the time so I pre-ordered it through RHDJapan and waited for the next production run to finish. I had to wait about 2 months but it still came 3 weeks earlier than was estimated. I haven't installed it, though. I'm assembling a few more parts before doing my big overhaul.

From what I read the Knightsports Kit does not include the "ducts" that the GReddy Kit has to help guide air where you want it. From personal experience the RE Amemiya Kit does not include any ducting or any intake pipes/filters. Both are significantly more expensive than the GReddy Kit. I think the GReddy kit is #1 for value and completeness.

Personally, I bought the RE Amemiya Kit because I am super anal visually and it was the most symmetrical in the engine bay........then I ended up getting custom large diameter pipes made so that became a moot point......:facepalm:.......don't judge me - you gotta be happy when you pop the hood :nod:

Thanks for the reply Dale .That's kind of how I've always understood it, and Link's write-up is what sparked my interest into the KS....then a few years ago when the GReddy started getting attention, I started trying to compare the KS/GReddy/HKS, and I've kind of rulled out the HKS. Since I've only had the opportunity to read other members install, or reviews I'm having a hard time determining which is the best route to go. I've only ever seen the GReddy in person (didn't install it or anything), and I've never even seen the KS....so if AC lines need work with either kit (and the lack of intake isn't a factor against the GReddy, for me personally), are there any other real shortcomings to the knightsports?

Just the price - $400 USD more for the KS, but you will be one of very few rocking it:

https://www.rhdjapan.com/trust-gredd...d3s-kouki.html
https://www.rhdjapan.com/knight-spor...-kit-fd3s.html


But if you want to go super crazy and be the only person rocking a kit, check out this bad boy:

https://www.rhdjapan.com/revolution-...-kit-fd3s.html

:bling:

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http://www.neweraparts.com/DesktopMo...JPG&PORTALID=0

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Thank you FEED, these are the exact type of insights I've been hoping for. And I totally agree with you about performance + aesthetics when you open the hood. And I agree the REA has always been the most visually appealing to me as well, although my research has always pointed towards the GReddy outperforming it....maybe it doesn't 'outperform' it, but rather it's just a little more complete, as you say.

RE: the Revolution kit. I have always lusted over pretty much all of their stuff, and I'm a super sucker for ultra rare parts....that kit just may be out of reach for me hahaha.

But I'm happy to now know the drawbacks of the KS kit. I think your insight has given me a great foundation for what I'd expect if I go that route on the future. As I said, I'm kind of a fanboy for those parts, and I'm setting my car up to run their SMIC setup first (currently have the DP and intake, just need the SMIC....and of course I had to have the headlight, but that's neither here nor there). If this system begins to limit me too much, I'll switch to the v-mount.
Thanks again

funny how a company that caters to "drag racers" can product a Vmount kit with out any real track experience and charge japanese brand prices. fritz must have walked them through that installation..

FWIW, the Greddy is available in several iterations, with #1 being the least expensive of the three. #1 is perfect for someone who has a single turbo and doesn't need the intakes for stock twins and needs to have a custom hotside IC pipe fabricated.

1. Kit without intakes or intercooler hotside pipe
2. Kit with intakes and piping set up for 93-95 Y-pipe
3. Kit with intake and piping set up for the Efini Y-pipe

Greddy hands down. It is the most complete kit and comes with everything you need for installation. I can make the ac and power steering all work without any issues. Like stated above, there are several kit versions depending on what you need and I've seen them as low as $2300 for the basic layout which we use for single turbos. Fab up the hot side piping to your specific turbo and you are done. If you want something cheaper get the CX or make your own but the amount of time it takes is usually not worth it.

So the GReddy kit comes with coolant piping and connections? I was hoping to keep A/C for this but looking now it seems the only manufactured way of doing it is using the Revolution kit, unless doing custom AC lines and condenser setup

Yes. It includes piping and hoses designed to be used with modification of the stock hoses. Its not a difficult install, just a bit time consuming.

How would you guys compare the greddy and the HKS?

HKS is nice, it is a larger core, but it does not come with a radiator or intake. So again when comparing, the Greddy is the most complete kit for the best price.

HKS kit
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...068ede6e6a.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f68bc736ba.jpg

You get what you pay for when its about v mounts.

i have the hks vmount kit.. you will love it after its mounted... until then get ready to use every curseword available to mankind ... it is not very well thought out, very incomplete, and requires modifications. Hks should have included an aluminum radiator without those bs brackets to use the oem fans in the opposite direction.

i would buy it again though now that i know what i am dealing with.. if you dont want to go through that bs route that i went through get the greddy

Did the GReddy kit facilitate the keeping of the A/C? or was that a custom job on your part?

The ac can be made to work with the greddy kit without an issue. I've installed over 20 of them. It takes some careful bending of the lines but is totally doable at home with a propane torch to heat up the lines and tubing bender. The instructions give you pictures as to the shape the lines need to be bent to. The kit does come with one ac line but it does not work on us models and is not needed.

I have one installed in my 94 FD. The kit is complete and of good quality. The intercooler has a large core but the end tanks are not the best for even air distribution on the core. The piping transition to the core is rather abrupt but otherwise OK. It works fine and the price is right. Just be prepared to wait for it when you ordered; mine order took about 7 weeks to fill.

Jpr

Are these guys as shady with the sale of their products? was eyeing getting their LIM and intake plenum but Im holding off until I get a better vibe.

Thanks

Jpr

When the intake system was first about to be released, there was all kind of talk about Elite doing back to back performance comparisons. Howard Coleman on this forum offered to do it from memory. After many follow ups since nothing was ever published. There are lots of "feel-pinions" on how good they are, but to my knowledge no actual data to back up what changes it makes to power output and the overall power curve.

Whenever I get a chance to get back on our shop car I'm going to do an unbiased comparison. Will do back to back dyno runs with the Elite intake system and the stock upper with an Xcessive lower. The only thing that will be adjusted is the afr to the same target if needed.

I'm willing to use our facilities to confirm whatever IRP finds. Not that I'd disagree but it might be nice to have two different entities testing. I also would be willing to throw it on a flow bench. I'm not willing to buy it just to give you guys info however :P

I agree. I have a Mustang Dyno fyi. Not sure what you plan to use. Technically it shouldn't matter as what were are looking at is the hp difference and power curve between stock and aftermarket manifolds.

I would gladly test the intake if someone wants to bring one in, I will do it for free.

Typically when a "shop" hypes something, then does not produce any data, it is because the product had no R&D and when it was actually tested it under-performed. HP & TQ comparison data should have been released when the product was released to the public.

Just like Dguy, I have no intention of buying one for testing purposes.

My problem with it is not its performance. I have called more than 10 times to their shop phone and left messages with an interest for purchase and NEVER gotten a call back. I would imagine that getting the product you purchased would be even more difficult........

Jpr