Dropping some weight in an RX7
Originally posted by Mr rx-7 tt
Uhh, Yes Steven is correct.
My brothers R-1 with an exhaust, intake weighs 2620 with 6 gallons of gas.....Mine weighs 50 lbs less..
Uhh, Yes Steven is correct.
My brothers R-1 with an exhaust, intake weighs 2620 with 6 gallons of gas.....Mine weighs 50 lbs less..
I'll stand by my post unless you can show me some proof. My R1 weighed 2780lbs stock, forgot how much gas was in the tank. Let's say it was full, 21 gal tank. Gas weighs 6lbs/gal. That saves 90lbs. Weight is now 2690lbs. Are you saying the stock exhaust weighs 90lbs more than the aftermarket exhaust?
I also had a 93 Base, sold it in October '02, it weighed 2740lbs with about 2/3 tank of gas. It had a DP and cat-back. I don't see how your going to get 120lbs out of the cat, intake and a little bit of gas. Wheels and tires were stock, also the car didn't have a stereo in it.
I know that aftermarket intakes don't save much weight. I've had a HKS, Apex'i and M2 CF. Maybe saves 2-3lbs.
You can't drive a car with no gas so compare with tanks full.
Jeff
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I have removed A/C, P/S, ABS, Interior trim and carpeting from my 7. I also have a full exhaust....
With my setup, the car feels pretty damn light and stops on a dime.
With my setup, the car feels pretty damn light and stops on a dime.
Supra faster on track?
Originally posted by onikageka
Supras have a better power to weight ratio than RX7's and every magazine review I've ever seen says the Supra is faster on a track than an RX7 too. The Supra will be my Supercar. The RX7 will be my light weight nimble little fun sportscar.
I'm not saying the FD isn't a great car. But I like the Supra better. And I wasn't comparing the FD and the GTS Celica. I was saying I want to make sure an FD will be as agile and nimble as the Celica.
Supras have a better power to weight ratio than RX7's and every magazine review I've ever seen says the Supra is faster on a track than an RX7 too. The Supra will be my Supercar. The RX7 will be my light weight nimble little fun sportscar.
I'm not saying the FD isn't a great car. But I like the Supra better. And I wasn't comparing the FD and the GTS Celica. I was saying I want to make sure an FD will be as agile and nimble as the Celica.
Granted, I've only got like 10 races they've done. Maybe someone who has a bigger collection could chime in?
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Only Best Motoring I've ever seen with a Supra had the S-RZ (non-turbo) and of course it got wasted. But if you have other videos I don't have drop me a link so I can download them. I'm a car video nut!
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hmmm wait savings...
(scratches head)
how bout a complete custom fiber body ,
single Turbo,
smaller fuel cell,
racing seats,
probably cost as much as buying the supra when your done but would be a hell of a lot more fun
IMO Supra= over-rated ok great theyre easy to make fast in a straight line but so is a mustang and they still handle like ***.
Oh in case you didn't see it i said In My Opinion!
(scratches head)
how bout a complete custom fiber body ,
single Turbo,
smaller fuel cell,
racing seats,
probably cost as much as buying the supra when your done but would be a hell of a lot more fun
IMO Supra= over-rated ok great theyre easy to make fast in a straight line but so is a mustang and they still handle like ***.
Oh in case you didn't see it i said In My Opinion!
Hey, where did my $$$ go?
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Originally posted by turbojeff
2600lbs with just an intake and exhaust? No.
Losing 300lbs will be hard, not impossible. Like others said, a 2800lb FD will be WAY more responsive than a 2500lb GTS.
You can lose some weight, might as well start off with a Base or R1 instead of a Touring. The sunroof alone weighs another ~30lbs.
Light flywheel, saves ~10lbs
Remove spare and Jack ~25-30lbs
Cruise ~5lbs
Airbag and sensors ~10lbs
Exhaust ~30lbs
Carbon fiber hood probably won't save anything, weights for the hood don't include hinges. I've heard people say that including hinges it is 1lb lighter.
The FD is such an awesome machine the way it is. It just kills me to see people "lighten them" and pretty much turn them into a shitty looking POS by taking out stuff that is really functional on a street car.
Jeff
2600lbs with just an intake and exhaust? No.
Losing 300lbs will be hard, not impossible. Like others said, a 2800lb FD will be WAY more responsive than a 2500lb GTS.
You can lose some weight, might as well start off with a Base or R1 instead of a Touring. The sunroof alone weighs another ~30lbs.
Light flywheel, saves ~10lbs
Remove spare and Jack ~25-30lbs
Cruise ~5lbs
Airbag and sensors ~10lbs
Exhaust ~30lbs
Carbon fiber hood probably won't save anything, weights for the hood don't include hinges. I've heard people say that including hinges it is 1lb lighter.
The FD is such an awesome machine the way it is. It just kills me to see people "lighten them" and pretty much turn them into a shitty looking POS by taking out stuff that is really functional on a street car.
Jeff
Actually YES.....my car wighed 2607 with nothing but intake and exhaust mods. It was put on the scales at a NHRA track.
Oh yea, I also had a underdrive pully. That was WITH the spare tire and jack in place.
I was at the track so I dont know exactly how much fuel was in there but it wasnt much....I'd estimate 5 gallons or so.
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Originally posted by turbojeff
I also had a 93 Base, sold it in October '02, it weighed 2740lbs with about 2/3 tank of gas. It had a DP and cat-back. I don't see how your going to get 120lbs out of the cat, intake and a little bit of gas. Wheels and tires were stock, also the car didn't have a stereo in it.
Jeff
Working on FD #12
I also had a 93 Base, sold it in October '02, it weighed 2740lbs with about 2/3 tank of gas. It had a DP and cat-back. I don't see how your going to get 120lbs out of the cat, intake and a little bit of gas. Wheels and tires were stock, also the car didn't have a stereo in it.
Jeff
Working on FD #12
Well lets use your car for an example.
2740 - 54lbs for the extra gas, thats 9 gallons since you have 14 and I have 5. This leaves 2686. I'd imagine the mp saves a good 35lbs which knocks it down to 2651. Your cat back might have weight different than mine. maybe you had more than exactly 2/3 a tank and maybe I had less than 5 gallons. Maybe your tires weighed more than my tires. Who knows I'm not going to split hairs over 40 lbs. I told you exactly what mods I had and exactly what my car showed on the scales. Take it or leave it, no skin off my back
Maybe your FD # 13 should be a 95 PEP like mine
STEPHEN
Last edited by SPOautos; Nov 1, 2002 at 05:00 PM.
Originally posted by turbojeff
Uh no.
I'll stand by my post unless you can show me some proof. My R1 weighed 2780lbs stock, forgot how much gas was in the tank. Let's say it was full, 21 gal tank. Gas weighs 6lbs/gal. That saves 90lbs. Weight is now 2690lbs. Are you saying the stock exhaust weighs 90lbs more than the aftermarket exhaust?
I also had a 93 Base, sold it in October '02, it weighed 2740lbs with about 2/3 tank of gas. It had a DP and cat-back. I don't see how your going to get 120lbs out of the cat, intake and a little bit of gas. Wheels and tires were stock, also the car didn't have a stereo in it.
I know that aftermarket intakes don't save much weight. I've had a HKS, Apex'i and M2 CF. Maybe saves 2-3lbs.
You can't drive a car with no gas so compare with tanks full.
Jeff
Working on FD #12
Uh no.
I'll stand by my post unless you can show me some proof. My R1 weighed 2780lbs stock, forgot how much gas was in the tank. Let's say it was full, 21 gal tank. Gas weighs 6lbs/gal. That saves 90lbs. Weight is now 2690lbs. Are you saying the stock exhaust weighs 90lbs more than the aftermarket exhaust?
I also had a 93 Base, sold it in October '02, it weighed 2740lbs with about 2/3 tank of gas. It had a DP and cat-back. I don't see how your going to get 120lbs out of the cat, intake and a little bit of gas. Wheels and tires were stock, also the car didn't have a stereo in it.
I know that aftermarket intakes don't save much weight. I've had a HKS, Apex'i and M2 CF. Maybe saves 2-3lbs.
You can't drive a car with no gas so compare with tanks full.
Jeff
Working on FD #12
We have both weighed them...They weighed EXACTLY what I said..
I refer you to SPO autos post (Stephen)..Thanks Steve for saving me the typing...
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Originally posted by Mr rx-7 tt
We have both weighed them...They weighed EXACTLY what I said...
We have both weighed them...They weighed EXACTLY what I said...
Today
My brothers R-1 with an exhaust, intake weighs 2620 with 6 gallons of gas.....Mine weighs 50 lbs less..
05-06-02
A 2570 lb RX-7 is far from "gutted". Stock it weighed 2789, wet. Drop off the stock exhaust to SS, lt weight flywheel, small battery, no spare/jack, 4 gallons of fuel. Also, my mods were very minimal.
04-14-02
Don't tell me a modded Rx-7 doesn't weigh 2650 either. (after dropping my stock exhaust to a ss I dropped 89 lbs alone.) I weighed my car on a scale 2570 dry (5 gallons of gas).
03-12-02
My car with the list of mods weighed 2570 lbs and dynoed slightly over 311 rwhp on a hot summer day
09-16-01
My car weighed 2570 on the scales with light fuel.
Funny, though, that my friend's '94 R2, with full stainless exhaust, N-tech battery miniaturization kit, non-sequential conversion, Pettit intake, M2 medium IC, lightweight flywheel, etc. with stock wheels and tires weighed 2,730 lbs. on SpeedWare's corner scales...
So asumming 11 lbs. in favor of the base model from the start over his R2, and assuming 5 gallons of gas in your car and a completely full tank in his (which it wasn't, by the way), you still managed to find nearly 60 extra lbs. of weight savings, and that's goddamn impressive, considering that you claim that you didn't gut your car and only had "very minimal" mods. Guess the jack and spare tire must be a lot heavier than I thought.
You wouldn't happen to have a printout or a picture of the scale readout to back up your claim, would you? You can understand, I'm sure, why people might be just a little skeptical...
Last edited by jimlab; Nov 1, 2002 at 11:44 PM.
Originally posted by jimlab
Well, at least if you're lying, you've been pretty consistent about it...
Today
My brothers R-1 with an exhaust, intake weighs 2620 with 6 gallons of gas.....Mine weighs 50 lbs less..
05-06-02
A 2570 lb RX-7 is far from "gutted". Stock it weighed 2789, wet. Drop off the stock exhaust to SS, lt weight flywheel, small battery, no spare/jack, 4 gallons of fuel. Also, my mods were very minimal.
04-14-02
Don't tell me a modded Rx-7 doesn't weigh 2650 either. (after dropping my stock exhaust to a ss I dropped 89 lbs alone.) I weighed my car on a scale 2570 dry (5 gallons of gas).
03-12-02
My car with the list of mods weighed 2570 lbs and dynoed slightly over 311 rwhp on a hot summer day
09-16-01
My car weighed 2570 on the scales with light fuel.
Funny, though, that my friend's '94 R2, with full stainless exhaust, N-tech battery miniaturization kit, non-sequential conversion, Pettit intake, M2 medium IC, lightweight flywheel, etc. with stock wheels and tires weighed 2,730 lbs. on SpeedWare's corner scales...
So asumming 11 lbs. in favor of the base model from the start over his R2, and assuming 5 gallons of gas in your car and a completely full tank in his (which it wasn't, by the way), you still managed to find nearly 60 extra lbs. of weight savings, and that's goddamn impressive, considering that you claim that you didn't gut your car and only had "very minimal" mods. Guess the jack and spare tire must be a lot heavier than I thought.
You wouldn't happen to have a printout or a picture of the scale readout to back up your claim, would you? You can understand, I'm sure, why people might be just a little skeptical...
Well, at least if you're lying, you've been pretty consistent about it...
Today
My brothers R-1 with an exhaust, intake weighs 2620 with 6 gallons of gas.....Mine weighs 50 lbs less..
05-06-02
A 2570 lb RX-7 is far from "gutted". Stock it weighed 2789, wet. Drop off the stock exhaust to SS, lt weight flywheel, small battery, no spare/jack, 4 gallons of fuel. Also, my mods were very minimal.
04-14-02
Don't tell me a modded Rx-7 doesn't weigh 2650 either. (after dropping my stock exhaust to a ss I dropped 89 lbs alone.) I weighed my car on a scale 2570 dry (5 gallons of gas).
03-12-02
My car with the list of mods weighed 2570 lbs and dynoed slightly over 311 rwhp on a hot summer day
09-16-01
My car weighed 2570 on the scales with light fuel.
Funny, though, that my friend's '94 R2, with full stainless exhaust, N-tech battery miniaturization kit, non-sequential conversion, Pettit intake, M2 medium IC, lightweight flywheel, etc. with stock wheels and tires weighed 2,730 lbs. on SpeedWare's corner scales...
So asumming 11 lbs. in favor of the base model from the start over his R2, and assuming 5 gallons of gas in your car and a completely full tank in his (which it wasn't, by the way), you still managed to find nearly 60 extra lbs. of weight savings, and that's goddamn impressive, considering that you claim that you didn't gut your car and only had "very minimal" mods. Guess the jack and spare tire must be a lot heavier than I thought.
You wouldn't happen to have a printout or a picture of the scale readout to back up your claim, would you? You can understand, I'm sure, why people might be just a little skeptical...
2)I guess Stephen, My brother and his friends who watched him weigh his car, myself and others all have cars that are just "real light"..BTW: That non-seq mod saves a lot of weight...lol
3) Do I have a copy of the weight..? Probably....Do I feel like looking for it..? No...Do I care what you think..? No....
4) Why don't you go start a thread and ask who likes you this week..or a thread with "guess how old I am..?or that's me by the door in that picture...
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Originally posted by Mr rx-7 tt
I have better things to do than lie...
I have better things to do than lie...
Do I have a copy of the weight..? Probably....Do I feel like looking for it..? No...Do I care what you think..? No....
Why don't you go start a thread and ask who likes you this week..or a thread with "guess how old I am..?or that's me by the door in that picture...
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Re: Plan
Originally posted by onikageka
Ok here's my plan and why I want to drop 300lbs. I'm a Toyota man. So I'm getting a Supra when I have the income to afford building a 650hp monster. But I used to drive a 2000 Celica GTS and I miss having a very light (2500lbs) sportscar. I know the FD can generate just as much HP as the Supra and all that but I want the RX7 as a light nimble get around car. The Supra will be my cruiser car with the power to eat Vipers and the like.
I've never driven an FD but I've rode in one a long time ago. I like the rotary engine despite it's tendency to destroy itself. So I figure a modest 300 to 350 HP RX7 with fast spooling turbos would satisfy my desire for a car like the 2000 GTS. It was light, quick, and very responsive.
Ok here's my plan and why I want to drop 300lbs. I'm a Toyota man. So I'm getting a Supra when I have the income to afford building a 650hp monster. But I used to drive a 2000 Celica GTS and I miss having a very light (2500lbs) sportscar. I know the FD can generate just as much HP as the Supra and all that but I want the RX7 as a light nimble get around car. The Supra will be my cruiser car with the power to eat Vipers and the like.
I've never driven an FD but I've rode in one a long time ago. I like the rotary engine despite it's tendency to destroy itself. So I figure a modest 300 to 350 HP RX7 with fast spooling turbos would satisfy my desire for a car like the 2000 GTS. It was light, quick, and very responsive.
I'm currently looking at a BEAUTIFUL 93 RX-7...but to be honest..my Celica GT-S seemed quicker?
I was almost cleared on the purchase of a 98 Supra TT for 39k, but the owner didn't have the title in his name..so it crashed and burned.
So since I have already promised to sell the Celica...I checked out the RX-7....
In your eyes..did the RX-7 feel heavier, and more sluggish...more snail like compared the the Celica?
Because it felt really slow compared to my Celica GT-S...and that just don't seem right.
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Re: Re: Plan
Originally posted by ArchangelX
In your eyes..did the RX-7 feel heavier, and more sluggish...more snail like compared the the Celica?
Because it felt really slow compared to my Celica GT-S...and that just don't seem right.
In your eyes..did the RX-7 feel heavier, and more sluggish...more snail like compared the the Celica?
Because it felt really slow compared to my Celica GT-S...and that just don't seem right.
I'm going to get my bud Ihor to respond. He owns a 93 RX7 and uses his sister's Celica as a daily driver. I'm sure he'll have some good insight on the subject.
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My sister has an 00 celica gts 6-speed. I used to drive it daily when she was at school her first year. Although it is fun to drive, there is simply no comparison to the fd rx-7. The celica doesn't have the torque nor power of the fd. Not to mention that the powerband is less than 2k rpm wide and in order to stay in it you have to shift so hard that its probably not good for the car. (already got trans replaced under warranty
) It handles pretty decent, but the lack of a limited slip differential kills it. You just can't put power down comming out of turns. The stock supension is kinda soft too. It amazes me that the "performance" model has the same suspension as the base. I've installed trd springs. They helped handling a bit but the ride quality went down the drain because the stock shocks don't have enough rebound dampning. Like Rich said, there must have been alot wrong with the rx-7 you drove. Remember, these cars are old and its not uncommon to see some with the original shocks/springs with over 100k miles on them. Not to mention the notorious boost problems, that cripple the turbo chargers. Find a well running and maintained example and then compare.
) It handles pretty decent, but the lack of a limited slip differential kills it. You just can't put power down comming out of turns. The stock supension is kinda soft too. It amazes me that the "performance" model has the same suspension as the base. I've installed trd springs. They helped handling a bit but the ride quality went down the drain because the stock shocks don't have enough rebound dampning. Like Rich said, there must have been alot wrong with the rx-7 you drove. Remember, these cars are old and its not uncommon to see some with the original shocks/springs with over 100k miles on them. Not to mention the notorious boost problems, that cripple the turbo chargers. Find a well running and maintained example and then compare.
"Sure you do. And if you weren't spending it all here bragging up your car and your friend's cars, you'd be doing something really important with all your free time, wouldn't you..."
**Bragging up my car...? Bragging up my friends..? No, All I said was how much my car weighed and my brothers...One of the other guys also came in with the weight of his car which was similar...(showing your ignorance)
Me bragging about my car..? This coming from someone who posts thread after thread with pictures, specs , and updates..? Your nothing but a hypocrite...Comical
Do I have a copy of the weight..? Probably....Do I feel like looking for it..? No...Do I care what you think..? No....
"Yeah, you do, or you wouldn't have bothered to respond. You're not overly burdened with maturity either, I see."
**Maturity..? This has nothing to do with maturity..I don't feel like wasting my time and effort for the likes of you..HINT: I could care less what you think...
Why don't you go start a thread and ask who likes you this week..or a thread with "guess how old I am..?or that's me by the door in that picture...
"Is it more pathetic that you can't come up with anything better than that, or that you actually think that was funny?"
**The truth hurts...You are constantly looking for self attention with your "me and my car" posts..You seek attention and you need help...
and yes I do find it comical...
**Bragging up my car...? Bragging up my friends..? No, All I said was how much my car weighed and my brothers...One of the other guys also came in with the weight of his car which was similar...(showing your ignorance)
Me bragging about my car..? This coming from someone who posts thread after thread with pictures, specs , and updates..? Your nothing but a hypocrite...Comical
Do I have a copy of the weight..? Probably....Do I feel like looking for it..? No...Do I care what you think..? No....
"Yeah, you do, or you wouldn't have bothered to respond. You're not overly burdened with maturity either, I see."
**Maturity..? This has nothing to do with maturity..I don't feel like wasting my time and effort for the likes of you..HINT: I could care less what you think...
Why don't you go start a thread and ask who likes you this week..or a thread with "guess how old I am..?or that's me by the door in that picture...
"Is it more pathetic that you can't come up with anything better than that, or that you actually think that was funny?"
**The truth hurts...You are constantly looking for self attention with your "me and my car" posts..You seek attention and you need help...
and yes I do find it comical...
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Originally posted by Mr rx-7 tt
**Bragging up my car...? Bragging up my friends..? No, All I said was how much my car weighed and my brothers...One of the other guys also came in with the weight of his car which was similar...(showing your ignorance)
**Bragging up my car...? Bragging up my friends..? No, All I said was how much my car weighed and my brothers...One of the other guys also came in with the weight of his car which was similar...(showing your ignorance)
Ignorant? You're the one who can't even figure out how to quote other's posts properly... what's this ** ****?? I'd hate to think that you were just too ******* lazy to take the time to do it right...
Me bragging about my car..? This coming from someone who posts thread after thread with pictures, specs , and updates..? Your nothing but a hypocrite...Comical
In order to be a hypocrite, I would have had to state or imply that I'm not here for attention. I've never claimed that I wasn't here for attention. In fact, that's precisely why I'm here, when it comes right down to it. But so is almost everyone else, including you.
If they aren't, why do most members post pictures of their cars, specs, time slips, and dyno sheets here? Hell, I'm one of the few members who doesn't have a yard-long .sig with all my mods, or a picture of my car for my avitar. But if it'd make you happy, I could just put a big dollar figure in my .sig. How'd that be?
So why do I get the feeling that you're just jealous?
**Maturity..? This has nothing to do with maturity..I don't feel like wasting my time and effort for the likes of you..HINT: I could care less what you think...
**The truth hurts...You are constantly looking for self attention with your "me and my car" posts..You seek attention and you need help...
and yes I do find it comical...
and yes I do find it comical...
You know, you're really making it look an awful lot like you're just jealous of the attention I get... if not, then what possible reason could you have for constantly bringing it up??
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Ya know, maybe Mr rx-7 tt's scale wasnt calibrated properly . I'm not calling anyone a liar, but it's really easy to see Jimlabs point... all similarily setup 3rd gens seem to weigh in at around 2750lbs. Even Mr stocks site backs that up (2767lbs). I really wish I knew what mystery mod shed almost 200lbs off of Mr Rx-7's car .
. I'm not calling anyone a liar, but it's really easy to see Jimlabs point... all similarily setup 3rd gens seem to weigh in at around 2750lbs. Even Mr stocks site backs that up (2767lbs). I really wish I knew what mystery mod shed almost 200lbs off of Mr Rx-7's car .
"Right, so all the bragging you do in threads in the Kills forum is what, precisely? Read the Z06 kill threads if you need a refresher."
**First, You stated I was bragging about my cars weight..(nothing to brag about, neither is my car) so I pointed out that you needed to look at your own posts and your bragging...and you were/are a hypocrite which you are..clue in...
"Ignorant? You're the one who can't even figure out how to quote other's posts properly... what's this ** ****?? I'd hate to think that you were just too ******* lazy to take the time to do it right..."
** I must really be getting on your nerves with the truth if you have to complain about quoting....comical
Me bragging about my car..? This coming from someone who posts thread after thread with pictures, specs , and updates..? Your nothing but a hypocrite...Comical
**
"If no one was interested in my pictures, specs, and updates, the thread on my V8 conversion wouldn't have the 3rd highest number of views in forum history, now would it?"
** What does how many people looked at the post have to do with anything..? Are you really this dumb..? It doesn't matter if 1,00000000 or 1 person looked at the post. The point was you posted about yourself, your car, your age ...you are a hypocrite......
"In order to be a hypocrite, I would have had to state or imply that I'm not here for attention."
**Wrong, You tried to attack me for "bragging" but the one who does the bragging is you...That makes you a hypocrite....
"I've never claimed that I wasn't here for attention. In fact, that's precisely why I'm here, when it comes right down to it. But so is almost everyone else, including you."
**No, I am here to converse that's it. I am not here for attention....
"If they aren't, why do most members post pictures of their cars, specs, time slips, and dyno sheets here?"
**To show what their cars look like and perform like...maybe..?
"Hell, I'm one of the few members who doesn't have a yard-long .sig with all my mods, or a picture of my car for my avitar. But if it'd make you happy, I could just put a big dollar figure in my .sig. How'd that be?"
**I could care less what you put next to your sig..I guess you just don't understand...One more time...I DON'T CARE...understand now..? lol
"So why do I get the feeling that you're just jealous?"
Of what..? Some 28 year old kid putting a V-8 in his car..? Your ignorance is blooming on this one...You need to lose the insecurity and get help..
Maturity..? This has nothing to do with maturity..I don't feel like wasting my time and effort for the likes of you..HINT: I could care less what you think...
Bullshit, or you'd just ignore my posts. $5 says you post again...
**I respond to clowns all the time..I don't care about their opinions I just like showing them they are wrong/ignorant...just like you.
The truth hurts...You are constantly looking for self attention with your "me and my car" posts..You seek attention and you need help...
and yes I do find it comical...
"The truth hurts who? Do I care that you have a problem with those posts? I'll post more of them if it really bothers you so much."
**Have at it......
"You know, you're really making it look an awful lot like you're just jealous of the attention I get... if not, then what possible reason could you have for constantly bringing it up??"
**Because it shows you have weak character and mental problems...You're a pathetic little individual who is constantly seeking attention..You want it and believe everybody is interested in you..(This is why you also constantly think/want everyone to be jelous of you...)that's why..Grow some nuts and quite worrying what everybody thinks about you, your age etc...
**First, You stated I was bragging about my cars weight..(nothing to brag about, neither is my car) so I pointed out that you needed to look at your own posts and your bragging...and you were/are a hypocrite which you are..clue in...
"Ignorant? You're the one who can't even figure out how to quote other's posts properly... what's this ** ****?? I'd hate to think that you were just too ******* lazy to take the time to do it right..."
** I must really be getting on your nerves with the truth if you have to complain about quoting....comical
Me bragging about my car..? This coming from someone who posts thread after thread with pictures, specs , and updates..? Your nothing but a hypocrite...Comical
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"If no one was interested in my pictures, specs, and updates, the thread on my V8 conversion wouldn't have the 3rd highest number of views in forum history, now would it?"
** What does how many people looked at the post have to do with anything..? Are you really this dumb..? It doesn't matter if 1,00000000 or 1 person looked at the post. The point was you posted about yourself, your car, your age ...you are a hypocrite......
"In order to be a hypocrite, I would have had to state or imply that I'm not here for attention."
**Wrong, You tried to attack me for "bragging" but the one who does the bragging is you...That makes you a hypocrite....
"I've never claimed that I wasn't here for attention. In fact, that's precisely why I'm here, when it comes right down to it. But so is almost everyone else, including you."
**No, I am here to converse that's it. I am not here for attention....
"If they aren't, why do most members post pictures of their cars, specs, time slips, and dyno sheets here?"
**To show what their cars look like and perform like...maybe..?
"Hell, I'm one of the few members who doesn't have a yard-long .sig with all my mods, or a picture of my car for my avitar. But if it'd make you happy, I could just put a big dollar figure in my .sig. How'd that be?"
**I could care less what you put next to your sig..I guess you just don't understand...One more time...I DON'T CARE...understand now..? lol
"So why do I get the feeling that you're just jealous?"
Of what..? Some 28 year old kid putting a V-8 in his car..? Your ignorance is blooming on this one...You need to lose the insecurity and get help..
Maturity..? This has nothing to do with maturity..I don't feel like wasting my time and effort for the likes of you..HINT: I could care less what you think...
Bullshit, or you'd just ignore my posts. $5 says you post again...
**I respond to clowns all the time..I don't care about their opinions I just like showing them they are wrong/ignorant...just like you.
The truth hurts...You are constantly looking for self attention with your "me and my car" posts..You seek attention and you need help...
and yes I do find it comical...
"The truth hurts who? Do I care that you have a problem with those posts? I'll post more of them if it really bothers you so much."
**Have at it......
"You know, you're really making it look an awful lot like you're just jealous of the attention I get... if not, then what possible reason could you have for constantly bringing it up??"
**Because it shows you have weak character and mental problems...You're a pathetic little individual who is constantly seeking attention..You want it and believe everybody is interested in you..(This is why you also constantly think/want everyone to be jelous of you...)that's why..Grow some nuts and quite worrying what everybody thinks about you, your age etc...
Last edited by Mr rx-7 tt; Nov 2, 2002 at 05:42 PM.
Originally posted by Mr. Stock
Ah...
The drama of the Young and the Restless played out on an internet car forum.
I must say I am here for entertainment as well as for attention.
Ah...
The drama of the Young and the Restless played out on an internet car forum.
I must say I am here for entertainment as well as for attention.
Maybe you're just jelous...maybe everyone on the forum comes here just so they can be jelous of Jimlab...Hell, Maybe the entire world is jelous of Jimlab...He's a legend in his own mind...