Does anyone have BNR stage 3 HP #'s????????
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Just wondering if anyone has done a dyno with the stage #'s .I have been torn between these or the GT35\40 kit .I would like to lay down about 400 -450 at the wheels.Along with every other 7 owner!!
intake, Pettit 3" exhaust (dp, resonated mp, dual tip cb), custom IC sized similar to M2 med, 850/1200 inj, Walbro pump, MSD 6a on Leading plugs, Power FC / Datalogit, Tech Edge Wideband, BNR engine with streetport, BNR stage 3 twins. Ran them full non seqential with no emmisions crap. 1.14 psi of boost on the PFC which was around 17psi on the Autometer, tuned by Steve Kan from GothamRacing.com
I drive it just like that everyday on 93 pump gas, and yea, I'm loving that nice wide *** power band lol
Oh yea, also I was running fairly hot intake temps on the dyno. At the track I traped 125mph which is closer to 430ish RWHP....also on pump gas.
Hope that helps,
STEPHEN
I drive it just like that everyday on 93 pump gas, and yea, I'm loving that nice wide *** power band lol
Oh yea, also I was running fairly hot intake temps on the dyno. At the track I traped 125mph which is closer to 430ish RWHP....also on pump gas.
Hope that helps,
STEPHEN
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so how are they ?are u pleased ?what about the drag strip ,u had it there yet ?sorry for all the questions but i;m trying to make a decision and i;m having a 3month hard time .i have $ i just need to figure out what i want !!
so how are they ?are u pleased ?
what about the drag strip ,u had it there yet ?
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Depends on the driver, with slicks you can get into the high 10's. I'm still on the stock rear end so I didnt launch the car, I was basically just after a mph to see where I stood. Also, I had a totally full tank of gas which add about 100lbs, that removed along with some hard fast shifting I should have been closer to 126 or maybe even 127.
And, yea just to confirm, I really like the twins.
STEPHEN
And, yea just to confirm, I really like the twins.
STEPHEN
if im not mistaken SPO has the prototypes. you can also get the ears clipped which will give you more high end since you asked about drag. im really thinking about a pair of these in about 6-7 months. i love the idea of going single, but this will do just well also. single is just a PITA for us cali dudes. the twins, well no one would know. can you say super sleeper.
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yea i'm leaning that way too ,but the only concern is that my twins that i have know are having boost prob's.i cant solve it ,i changed all the normal "hey check this"**** and its still not pullin 10 -8-10!last night i checked the clips onall the acuator rods and only the one on the very bottom next to the control arm was loose.but it all the clips were there?i just dont want to buy them and still have boost probs!!any suggestions?
Everyone I know of with the BNR stage 3's are non-sequential. That makes it really to solve boost problems. If you do the non-sequential right and get a boost controller you can remove almost all of the factory solenoids.
Since the Stage 3s spool so fast, there's no sense in running them sequential. One of the problems with running the stock twins non-seq is the apparent lag but the Stage 3s get full 17 psi by 3800 rpms (non-seq) My stage 2s spool as fast as ths stock twins but I'm running them sequential - I have 15 psi be 2800 rpms and made 380 rwhp with the stage 2s
if you want a stock look or have to worry about emission ****'s get the bnr's if you have a
little extra money get the single setup.
if you really compare them they are both good setups, but you can make the same or more power with a
single at less boost. You probably would not even want to run the bnr's in sequential. Higher hp
stock turbos have major boost spike issues on transition and I never liked how hard the 2nd turbo
would come on. Not a great thing in middle of a corner. One question I have is how well do the bnr's
hold on a lower boost setting? is there a lot of creep if you only want to run 10~12 lbs? I would
think as much as they flow you would have issues since your running the stock wastegate,
even if it is ported.
I don't think you can really go wrong with either setup. the bnr's are cheaper, but you
still need about the same supporting mods as a single turbo to make good power.
James
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little extra money get the single setup.
if you really compare them they are both good setups, but you can make the same or more power with a
single at less boost. You probably would not even want to run the bnr's in sequential. Higher hp
stock turbos have major boost spike issues on transition and I never liked how hard the 2nd turbo
would come on. Not a great thing in middle of a corner. One question I have is how well do the bnr's
hold on a lower boost setting? is there a lot of creep if you only want to run 10~12 lbs? I would
think as much as they flow you would have issues since your running the stock wastegate,
even if it is ported.
I don't think you can really go wrong with either setup. the bnr's are cheaper, but you
still need about the same supporting mods as a single turbo to make good power.
James
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yea i have pretty good base to start with either setup ,the thing is ,i dont know if i wanta to put 3500 more in the car after i just put 5000 in rims and all that other stuff to support more hp.
dont forget the tuning....and that aint cheap or easy...if you do the tuning yourself youre lookin at a lot of time..research..and youll need a datalogit and a laptop and a wideband...otherwise youre lookin at 600 bucks at the tuning shop..at least.
i dont know what your mod list is...but if you want to run that kind of power you will need at the very least what i have in my mod list and the 1600 inj/fuel rail for 450hp on a single
my m2 setup is back on the dyno today...
j
i dont know what your mod list is...but if you want to run that kind of power you will need at the very least what i have in my mod list and the 1600 inj/fuel rail for 450hp on a single
my m2 setup is back on the dyno today...
j
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