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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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Here's one option...



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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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why would it be too risky? for an explosion you would need heat, pressure, and then a spark inside the gastank. No? I think the idea of a turbo under a car is really dumb anyway.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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I'm sure Jim's will be a monster once done but I don't think the level of work he's put into it is even remotely close to the rule for those doing these conversions.

With that in mind are any of these V8 3rd gens actually fast? I never see ET's or anything for them. Considering a stock block rotary can run a corrected high 10 in the quarter what do these LT1's with stock unported heads run? I should hope they run better than the stock block 13BRew.

Shush Jim! I said you were the exception :P

As for this goofy concept of putting the tubo's in the oil cooler areas, well, then where does your oil cooler go? Yes you still need an oil cooler with turbo charged V8's.

The pictures Jim posted are extremely nice looking, lots of work went into that and it looks like they did quality work but I can't help but think of one thing from those pictures. Overheating after one lap. Look where the radiator and I assume AC sit and the filters etc. all blocking it as well. Looks like a show car, not a performance car.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin T. Wyum

With that in mind are any of these V8 3rd gens actually fast? I never see ET's or anything for them. Considering a stock block rotary can run a corrected high 10 in the quarter what do these LT1's with stock unported heads run? I should hope they run better than the stock block 13BRew.

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How about HInson's LS1 car 10.4@131

http://www.bama.ua.edu/~hinso007/10secpassrx7.mov

Apparently he's also gone 10.0@138, but doesn't have video for it. That's pretty fast

And although I don't have slips for mine, it seems to hold it's own at an autocross.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by LT1-7
Yeah, I guess it had nothing to do with sales then huh?

Anyways, this was just an idea. I thought and still do think it's a good idea. It'll keep temps down and save lots of room. But this is something I'm not going to try on my car just yet. Maybe when I go quad turbos
Its a dumb idea. You need to do a massive amount of piping. Then you need to shield the bumper and maybe the tires from the heat of the turbos. Unless you have relocated your battery, you will also be cooking it. Meanwhile the passenger side turbo will be either boiling the coolant overflow tank, creating a pressure situation, or just baking the plastic.

I hope you don't use AC because you are also putting a heat source next to its components, more so than the radiator.

Are you the same guy who thought he could get a performance increase by directly taking air from the nose to feed the turbos? If not, you and him need to find a couple villages for employment opportunities.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by PVerdieck
Its a dumb idea. You need to do a massive amount of piping. Then you need to shield the bumper and maybe the tires from the heat of the turbos. Unless you have relocated your battery, you will also be cooking it. Meanwhile the passenger side turbo will be either boiling the coolant overflow tank, creating a pressure situation, or just baking the plastic.

I hope you don't use AC because you are also putting a heat source next to its components, more so than the radiator.

Are you the same guy who thought he could get a performance increase by directly taking air from the nose to feed the turbos? If not, you and him need to find a couple villages for employment opportunities.
Actually he would probably have less piping if not the same amount if he went this route.
Sheilding the turbos wouldn't be that big of a deal either there would be room.
The overflow can be mounted easily away from the tubos and shielded as well.
He doesn't have AC so thats not a problem.

Ohh and I am the guy who was thinking about moving my intake into the front bumper and yes it will have a performance increase, it will be getting COLD AIR rather than hot engine bay air.....

So John you know of any nices villages we can move to maybe there we can get away from people like this. . . .

Justus

BTW PVerdieck you do realize it is a V8 Twin Turbo setup we are talking about here right???
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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your oil return will be tricky for the turbos. You will have to pump it back into the engine.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Are they water cooled ???
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by wingsfan
How about HInson's LS1 car 10.4@131

http://www.bama.ua.edu/~hinso007/10secpassrx7.mov

Apparently he's also gone 10.0@138, but doesn't have video for it. That's pretty fast

And although I don't have slips for mine, it seems to hold it's own at an autocross.
I doubt thats with a stock head, it's also probably with a 250 shot or some kind of shot of Nawwsss.
Impressive none the less.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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[i]Originally posted by SyderJL
BTW PVerdieck you do realize it is a V8 Twin Turbo setup we are talking about here right???
Given that half the first page was V-8 talk, yes, Captain Obvious, I did note that.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by PVerdieck
Are you the same guy who thought he could get a performance increase by directly taking air from the nose to feed the turbos?
No, he isn't. That was FDSeeker...

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=277898
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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ohh I thought he was reffering to this htread:
https://www.rx7club.com//showthread....hreadid=294136

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by wingsfan
How about HInson's LS1 car 10.4@131

http://www.bama.ua.edu/~hinso007/10secpassrx7.mov

Apparently he's also gone 10.0@138, but doesn't have video for it. That's pretty fast

And although I don't have slips for mine, it seems to hold it's own at an autocross.
You're talking about stock block / internals and stock heads with no porting etc. right? The only thing I could really see in the video was spare tires or something on the front wheels. I really don't know anything about that car so I can't make any valid comments about it. Either way mid 10's is a respectable time no matter what.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
I doubt thats with a stock head, it's also probably with a 250 shot or some kind of shot of Nawwsss.
Interesting. And here I thought the idea was to run the quarter mile as quickly as possible... I guess N2O is a bad idea then?

You're right, that is with a big shot of nitrous. However, his car is close to or a little over 400 RWHP on engine alone, I believe. People who don't want the complication, expense, or extra weight of forced induction but don't want to live with a cam big enough to make all their power naturally aspirated often build a "stout" NA motor that makes pretty good power and then use nitrous to get the rest of the power they want only when they need it, especially when drag racing is their primary focus. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin T. Wyum
You're talking about stock block / internals and stock heads with no porting etc. right?
Stock block/internals, apparently, but I seriously doubt that his heads are stock. I don't believe for a minute that you can jump to 400 RWHP with just a cam, intake, and exhaust with an LS1. 350-360 RWHP, sure. It's called an LS6.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by jimlab
Here's one option...
that's pretty simple Jim. I don't know why I never thought of that. I'll have to look at my car and see how it'll fit. My main concern is the exhaust outlet. If I mount it like in your pics it'll most likely hit my tires. I ordered some new flanges but in the mean time I adjusted the driver side turbo a bit. It sits nice and high and will leave me lots of room for in IC

Here's a pic in case you didn't catch it on my other thread


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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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I don't remember seeing enough room underneth the engine for 3" piping.
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You can fit 4" piping all the way back. There is room.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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a little off topic but.......what front bumper is that?
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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i have a pic somehwere, of a drag car with the turbo mounted in the front bumper. i believe it was a mustang, but im sure it could be done w/ an fd as well. if you have enough $$ you can get anything done to your car.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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yodaddy, the front is an R-Magic

SNracing, I've seen things like that done on grag cars with real bumper covers. That's why I didn't think heat would be a problem with the right shielding

Here's something I made up at work (too bored)
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Damnit....anyone have that pic of the turbo that was installed by the rear axle on that Camaro?
Damn! Beat me to it!
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