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Old 12-28-10, 09:44 AM
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.....any other OEM parts that need to be replaced? I've heard replacing the fuel pulsation damper is a good idea. Any other gaskets or parts I need to get?
IF you go in that deep you can also consider removing the FPD altogether. ---> http://www.banzai-racing.com/pd_elimination_how-to.htm

Opportune time to consider replacing the rubber fuel lines...maybe the coil harness and plug wires depending on how old yours are. None are all that expensive. I'd also think about a new UIM to LIM gasket.
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Great link on the FPD removal. Are there any negatives to not having a the damper? I would love to not spend the money on a new one. I figured I might need some manifold gaskets. I have new plug wires to install, I'll look into the coil harness. As much as I hate replacing parts that are not broken I really don't want to have to take it all apart later for something I should have done.
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Can't comment personally on negatives. When did my rebuild I'd bought a replacement FDP before hearing about the deletion how-to. But I respect Chris Sanders' (Banzai Racing) opinion and he claims he's never had any issues. There should be some other "longitudinal" experiences from others by now. You could try searching or a separate thread.
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
IF you go in that deep you can also consider removing the FPD altogether. ---> http://www.banzai-racing.com/pd_elimination_how-to.htm

Opportune time to consider replacing the rubber fuel lines...maybe the coil harness and plug wires depending on how old yours are. None are all that expensive. I'd also think about a new UIM to LIM gasket.
One thing about that Banzai write up though...I wouldn't use teflon tape because it could break apart and clog something. There is a paste you can use, I got mine at Lowe's but I imagine they sell it or something like it at auto parts stores too. I don't usually use teflon tape anymore because of this.
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Another good choice for silicone hoses would be Baker Precision http://www.bakerprecision.com/hosetech.htm.
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good read
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I definitely agree on the hosetechniques recommendation. I did the rats nest and every other rubber hose under the hood 11 years ago and all the hoses are still good as new.
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Just bought the rx7 kit from hosetechniques. I had to call because it either said "out of stock" or "discontinued" on the web site.
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A little trick I was taught, that works very well, is to use a little silicone spray on the ends before putting the hose on. It not only lubricates the hose, but helps make a better seal.

Great write-up, Dale.
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I don't think you want to lubricate the hose as it goes on, wouldn't that make it easier for it to pop off? I guess if you zip tie them all it could be fine but without a barb at the end of most of the connections on the rats nest, I don't want to do anything to make it easier for the hose to move. I would not expect any of the connections to leak, especially if you zip tie them. That is my thinking on the matter. I don't mean to be critical
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Originally Posted by sc_frontier
Just bought the rx7 kit from hosetechniques. I had to call because it either said "out of stock" or "discontinued" on the web site.
Consider the fuel pulsation damper delete if you have not already replaced the FPD. I did it according to the instructions and have had no issues. It was also much cheaper than buying the damper. If you still have your car in 15 years you might be glad you don't have to replace it again.
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Originally Posted by adamrs80
I don't think you want to lubricate the hose as it goes on, wouldn't that make it easier for it to pop off?
I find that a touch of spit helps assembly but it quickly evaporates after the first few drives leaving the hoses with plenty of grip.
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Originally Posted by adamrs80
Consider the fuel pulsation damper delete if you have not already replaced the FPD. I did it according to the instructions and have had no issues. It was also much cheaper than buying the damper. If you still have your car in 15 years you might be glad you don't have to replace it again.
And if youre really that worried about the dampening just spend the $130 and get a Sard/Aeromotive FPR that acts as a dampener. Plus you can now monitor your fuel pressure which is pretty important.
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I typically spit or lick the end of the vacuum line before installation if it's being difficult. Works like a champ.

All of my vacuum lines require work to remove, they are DEFINITELY not going to pop off. This is on "old" SVH that has been heat cycled extensively.

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I'm about to do the vacumn hose replacement on my stock 94 R2 and I have a question on what tie wraps to use, if I need to use them during the process. I'd rather have them and not need them then not have them and need them.
McMaster Carr has different ones from the standard nylon ties with a 185 deg rating (& metal lock tab), High Temp black nylon ties with 221 deg rating and High Temp Tefzel ties with a 302 deg rating.
Any suggestions?
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Can't go wrong with the highest temp?
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Wow, I didn't even know high temp zip ties existed lol. Good to know.
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The issue I have with zip-ties is when they need to be removed you will most likely need to cut part of the hose...

I do suggest you pick up some vacuum caps while you're shopping.
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What size(s) of vacuum caps are needed?
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Originally Posted by Gen2n3
What size(s) of vacuum caps are needed?
Can anyone provide info on sizes of the caps? When I click here McMaster there are many different sizes for the chemical resistant caps. I'm going to be putting my engine together very soon and plan to use the simplified sequential diagram for my twin turbo set-up. Thanks!
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What I do is take silicon hose and put a machine screw just a little larger than the hose ID and RTV it in one end of the hose and cut to length and it makes a perfect cap that will not crack from heat!
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Originally Posted by seven1997
What I do is take silicon hose and put a machine screw just a little larger than the hose ID and RTV it in one end of the hose and cut to length and it makes a perfect cap that will not crack from heat!
Not a bad idea.
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I purchased the 1/8" caps suggested by Dale from mcmaster and they are too tight, I would go a little bigger. They fit tight and I managed to split the ends on several occasions from over stretching.
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Thanks dale, I purchased some silicon hoses at his recommendation, absolutely perfect
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Originally Posted by seven1997
What I do is take silicon hose and put a machine screw just a little larger than the hose ID and RTV it in one end of the hose and cut to length and it makes a perfect cap that will not crack from heat!
Only trouble is that since silicon is so susceptable to tearing the threads will start a notch and tear over time.


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