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Old 07-10-08, 07:21 PM
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current quality (7/2008) of factory reman engines ?

I just read through about 30-threads on remans, and the woes of the factory Mazda remans engines.

What's the current quality status (7/2008) of factory reman engines from Mazda, supposedly coming out of Jacksonville, FL, but run under Delco-Remy (who are probably in low morale due to the crap GM put them under) ?

Are they worth getting, or am I better off going to Pettit Racing , Rotary Resurrection, or RotarySportRacing ?

I'm in Jacksonville, FL.

If the factory reman is poor, supposedly I can get new short-blocks via the MazdaSpeed program, but the description doesn't read new, instead it reads:

ENGINE-CALL MANA-RBLT3558
Part No : N3A1-02-200

and there's speculation I might receive reman, new, or nothing (I have a call into MazdaSpeed).

TIA,
:-) neil
Old 07-10-08, 08:30 PM
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get a reman, and immediately send it out to an engine builder.

They tend to have a surprising amount of new parts in them and everything should be well within spec.

You just want to have an experienced shop go through it to make sure it is in perfect order.
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Originally Posted by Monkman33
get a reman, and immediately send it out to an engine builder.

They tend to have a surprising amount of new parts in them and everything should be well within spec.

You just want to have an experienced shop go through it to make sure it is in perfect order.
Wouldn't the total price of the above be more than just sending in my current NEW engine (less than 10K miles) to Pettit, RotaryResurrection, or RotarySportRacing ?

BTW: I just lost coolant seals due to overheating due to a bad coolant cap !

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Last fall I spoke with Ray @ Malloy and read through some of the same threads you've been reading. Then, even if you got new/decent parts, assembly was as chancy as having Michael Jackson over to babysit. I doubt that's changed since.
You didn't mention it, but is rebuilding your current shortblock an option?

Edit: We posted at the same time.

If your shortblock is that solid, personally I'd have it rebuilt with parts from MAZDACOMP. Should be cheaper even with labor (assume your not doing it yourself). And you'll have some piece of mind knowing what you've got.
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
Last fall I spoke with Ray @ Malloy and read through some of the same threads you've been reading. Then, even if you got new/decent parts, assembly was as chancy as having Michael Jackson over to babysit. I doubt that's changed since.
You didn't mention it, but is rebuilding your current shortblock an option?

Edit: We posted at the same time.

If your shortblock is that solid, personally I'd have it rebuilt with parts from MAZDACOMP. Should be cheaper even with labor (assume your not doing it yourself). And you'll have some piece of mind knowing what you've got.
I personally don't know if it is solid, and if I can get a NEW one from Mazdacomp for under $3K, I just may do it (it'll probably come from Japan).

I guess I could send it to Rotary Ressurection have it opened, and then send all my new MazdaComps parts over, IF he'll accept that type of arrangement.

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Originally Posted by M104-AMG
I personally don't know if it is solid, and if I can get a NEW one from Mazdacomp for under $3K, I just may do it (it'll probably come from Japan).
How much for shipping, including any core? IIRC, for Malloy it was $150 X 2 ($300 total).
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I guess I could send it to Rotary Ressurection have it opened, and then send all my new MazdaComps parts over, IF he'll accept that type of arrangement.

:-) neil
How bad did your current motor overheat?
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
How much for shipping, including any core? IIRC, for Malloy it was $150 X 2 ($300 total).

How bad did your current motor overheat?
I haven't talked to Malloy yet, but I assume $150x2, unless they will let me pickup and give the core in JAX, FL.

According to my AutoMeter gauge which has the sensor in the same area as the coolant buzzer sensor, 240-F.

Unfortunately, there was little coolant in that area, so I would say hotter than that.

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Good luck getting a Reman. They are on eternal backorder.
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Personally I'd consider re-building what you have. No guarantees, but with that low mileage, alot of stuff should still be good. At least you know your rotors will be matched and the oil pick-up isn't stuffed full of sealant.
Hard and soft seals, misc. copper washers, exhaust gaskets (from Mazdacomp) + Labor and your still under what a reman would cost. And you have some piece of mind while your installing it.
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Let us know about the Mazdacomp engine. New or reman?
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Mazda is in the process of moving all reman engine work to their new facility in the Richmond, VA area. They are currently doing Rx-8 remans there and will eventually do older rotaries as well. There is a guy on Rx-8 forums who works there and posts up about the place. He is the one claiming that they will eventually be trained to do remans of older engines.
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shipping 2 years ago was 210 one way from malloy mazda to my door in WA state.
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Gas prices have more than doubled since then
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Where is Malloy Mazda ?
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Originally Posted by Ralphy
Where is Malloy Mazda ?
Woodbridge, VA

1 888 533 3400

:-) neil
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