3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

computer question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:46 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: new york city
computer question

ok im in the middle of doing alot to my car and i was going to buy a power fc but im thinking on not getting one and getting a remapped comp that is set for 400 whp at 15 lbs. all i wanted was around 400 anyway and the price diffrence is alot and i would also get an afc with the remapped comp any opinions. money is an issue so dont say pfc just cause its better i already know that. i just want to know the reliability of a remapped basically.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:56 AM
  #2  
rynberg's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 10
From: San Lorenzo, California
You cannot run 400 rwhp on any mapped ecu. Nor is the S-AFC usable on an FD.

If you are pushing for that kind of power, you NEED a standalone ecu such as the PFC, Haltech, Microtech, Wolf, or AEM. The PFC is by far the easiest install and setup of the standalones and, combined with the datalogit, does nearly everything you'd ever need an ecu to do.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:24 AM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: new york city
i guess im getting a pfc then
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:29 AM
  #4  
rynberg's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 10
From: San Lorenzo, California
Please don't take offense, but it doesn't sound like you are familiar enough with the FD to mod the car yourself to those power levels.....I would contact a good tuner/shop in your area (I believe Demetrious is the THE rotary guy in that part of the world), tell them your goals, and let them put together your setup and tune it.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:31 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: new york city
lol, yea i can, sorry i didnt know that a remapped comp cant make 400 hp. but it says it can? there probably lieing. it dosent even matter thou i really was just wondering if i could get away with a remapped comp. my friends supra is running like 800 hp with a remapped comp a afc and vpc, but its a diffrent car. just for asking y cant you use an afc?
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:36 PM
  #6  
alberto_mg's Avatar
Rotary Freak
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,690
Likes: 0
From: nyc+li, ny
which ecu are you talking about? what mods will you have?

for 400hp you are probably talking about a single turbo upgrade. most remapped ecus that i am aware of are mapped for stock twins and i think stock injectors. by mapped we are talking about injector sizes, timing and fuel maps etc. which would be different for a single turbo application.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:21 PM
  #7  
rynberg's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 10
From: San Lorenzo, California
Originally Posted by rotary
lol, yea i can, sorry i didnt know that a remapped comp cant make 400 hp. but it says it can? there probably lieing. it dosent even matter thou i really was just wondering if i could get away with a remapped comp. my friends supra is running like 800 hp with a remapped comp a afc and vpc, but its a diffrent car. just for asking y cant you use an afc?
To run 400 rwhp, you need larger injectors. Only a standalone computer will allow for this. An S-AFC allows very crude fuel adjustments and that's about it, it does nothing for the timing requirements -- it's just not suitable for FDs running at these power levels (and can't handle injector adjustments either!).

In addition, there are many advantages of running a good standalone vs a remapped ecu -- smoother operation, sensor monitoring, datalogging, adjustability of MANY parameters (temp fans come on, etc).
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 02:41 PM
  #8  
David Beale's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton Alberta Canada
<rant mode on>
I can't understand why anyone would want their RX-7 to produce much above 300 HP for driving on the street. At that level, it is faster than just about any other street legal car, still (it was really ahead of its' time).

To get your car above that 300 HP (out of the engine) level, you will be spending lots more money, you will have lots of trouble breaking parts like half shafts and diff mounts, and you will be constantly tuning the car to keep it stable.

The exception is if you are racing the car. Then you would, or should, expect to spend lots, repair often, and have a hard to drive vehicle.
<rant mode off>
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 05:27 PM
  #9  
Cgotto6's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 29
From: Maltby, Washington
Originally Posted by David Beale
<rant mode on>
I can't understand why anyone would want their RX-7 to produce much above 300 HP for driving on the street. At that level, it is faster than just about any other street legal car, still (it was really ahead of its' time).

To get your car above that 300 HP (out of the engine) level, you will be spending lots more money, you will have lots of trouble breaking parts like half shafts and diff mounts, and you will be constantly tuning the car to keep it stable.

The exception is if you are racing the car. Then you would, or should, expect to spend lots, repair often, and have a hard to drive vehicle.
<rant mode off>
If you cant understand why anybody would want an FD with above 300hp you obviously havent driven an FD with more power than that. Its not like you have to mash around all the time. You can drive 350+hp FD's around in a civilized fashion too...
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 12:39 AM
  #10  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: new york city
im only really going for 400 topps i really want about 350-375 i already have a kaaz diff, diff brace engine torque brace custom tranny mount and an act 6 puck but i think im taking it out for the street strip disc i know the pressure plate is the same maybe i can just buy a friction disc its fairly new?
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 08:27 AM
  #11  
pianoprodigy's Avatar
Missin' my FD
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,755
Likes: 0
From: Seminole, FL (Tampa Bay Area)
Originally Posted by David Beale
<rant mode on>
I can't understand why anyone would want their RX-7 to produce much above 300 HP for driving on the street. At that level, it is faster than just about any other street legal car, still (it was really ahead of its' time).

To get your car above that 300 HP (out of the engine) level, you will be spending lots more money, you will have lots of trouble breaking parts like half shafts and diff mounts, and you will be constantly tuning the car to keep it stable.

The exception is if you are racing the car. Then you would, or should, expect to spend lots, repair often, and have a hard to drive vehicle.
<rant mode off>
I've put over 15k miles on my setup making 360 whp daily and sometimes more on the weekends when some 100 octane is in the tank (combined with more boost of course). If 300 hp makes you happy, by all means, leave yours that way, but I'm getting ready to upgrade/rebuild my turbo and shoot for over 500 rwhp. I'll still run somewhere in the high 300s/low 400s as a "daily" setting, although I don't drive the FD all that much during the week.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 04:55 PM
  #12  
poss's Avatar
Slower Traffic Keep Right
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,192
Likes: 2
From: Dayton, OH
Originally Posted by David Beale
<rant mode on>
I can't understand why anyone would want their RX-7 to produce much above 300 HP for driving on the street. At that level, it is faster than just about any other street legal car, still (it was really ahead of its' time).

To get your car above that 300 HP (out of the engine) level, you will be spending lots more money, you will have lots of trouble breaking parts like half shafts and diff mounts, and you will be constantly tuning the car to keep it stable.

The exception is if you are racing the car. Then you would, or should, expect to spend lots, repair often, and have a hard to drive vehicle.
<rant mode off>
I drove my car at ~300 rwhp about for 3 years. I guess I just got tired of it and had to up the boost a little bit. Now I am getting bored with ~350. It's time to go single and get up in the mid 400s. I'm a few thousand $$ short of that though. It boils down to perception.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sctRota
Old School and Other Rotary
7
Nov 10, 2015 12:57 PM
SakeBomb Garage
Group Buy & Product Dev. FD RX-7
8
Oct 9, 2015 10:05 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:05 AM.