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Old 11-27-02, 08:53 AM
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Question Cheap hp mod or a waste of time?

How come nobody has ever super insulated the ic outflow piping to keep the charge from warming up on the way to the intake manifold? Hmmmm?
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Which air is hotter? The air inside the piping or outside? Depending on this answer it could have an adverse effect.
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I KNOW that I've seen this in Japan. Instead of insulating the pipes, some companies (maybe Border Racing or 5Zigen, I can't remember which one exactly) had cooling fins on a certain part of the piping. This may not be as effective as insulated piping, but the amount of space required would be much less.

Sorry, but I don't have pics of this, but you can imagine what I mean.
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Cooling fins do the opposite of insulation.
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Originally posted by Rated R1
Which air is hotter? The air inside the piping or outside? Depending on this answer it could have an adverse effect.
Good point. I would hope that after passing through an upgraded intercooler it would be much colder than the ambient temp in the engine bay. I would have to guess there is a significant drop in temp especially with a FMIC and the extra distance the air travels. Good old friction plays a huge part in heating air up as it travels, even in smooth pipes. It could be enough to offset the (supposedly) extra cooling power of a FMIC vs. a SMIC.

Oh ****, now I've opened up a Pandora's box.....

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Originally posted by DomFD3S
I KNOW that I've seen this in Japan. Instead of insulating the pipes, some companies (maybe Border Racing or 5Zigen, I can't remember which one exactly) had cooling fins on a certain part of the piping. This may not be as effective as insulated piping, but the amount of space required would be much less.

Sorry, but I don't have pics of this, but you can imagine what I mean.
Not exactly sure how this would work on the outflow - maybe if it was on the intake side?
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Build an alcohol squirter, that hoses down your IC???

Damn I'm retarded
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Originally posted by RonKMiller

Not exactly sure how this would work on the outflow - maybe if it was on the intake side?
Sorry guys, you're right. On the Outflow, you're correct. I misread your initial post.

Thanks for the correction. Time for my daily dose of coffee.
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Originally posted by dubulup
Build an alcohol squirter, that hoses down your IC???

Damn I'm retarded
HAHAHHAHA! I would use Ether instead, but then there is this little problem about having explosive vapor (alcohol or ether) swirling around your engine bay!

Ya, you are retarded - LOL!
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You can get the pipes ceramic coated. HetHot or HPcoatings can do this. Same principle as getting a DP coated, except in reverse.

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Are you talking about the stock IC transfer/elbow? These are plastic, which absorbs and retains heat the least of the materials in the engine, right?
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My bad. I was referring to AL aftermarket pipes and elbow. I would agree the plastic pipes are quiet effective heat insulators.
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Originally posted by spurvo
Are you talking about the stock IC transfer/elbow? These are plastic, which absorbs and retains heat the least of the materials in the engine, right?
Good point about the plastic, if only it was smooth all the way. Now if someone could duplicate the metal ic pipes in a one piece, heavy duty plastic, that had air bubbles entrapped in it for insulation plus a little bit of flex for fitment issues... I'm probably spltting hairs when it comes to hp, but then again?
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