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Old 02-11-14, 07:23 AM
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I work a lot ill try to do everything recommended this weekend
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SERIOUSLY I just saw the video! Someone tell him it doesn't sound blown. It is blown!
I've rebuilt alot of engines to know that when a motor has no pulses its low compression.
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it could just be super flooded
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Originally Posted by kompressorlogic
it could just be super flooded
It could which is why I gave him the bulletproof deflood method and to report back results.

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Old 02-12-14, 11:59 AM
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The spark plugs were full of black residue and had fuel on them! ill post pics in a bit.
Below are videos with EGI fuse removed full throttle cranking 15-20 seconds.


Here is the first video
https://vimeo.com/86526502

Here is the second video:
https://vimeo.com/86525407
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definitely just flooded, after blowing the gas out squirt a little 2 stroke in the chambers and crank it over with the fuse out some more, then throw some new plugs in should fire up, keep it running till it clears out.
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k im gonna buy new spark plugs today and update everyone
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Yup, compression sounds good in those videos. If you clean the plugs with brake cleaner, and burn them with a lighter or torch, it would probably work just the same. New plugs even better. The smoke coming out was all the fuel inside. Keep cranking it until no more smoke.

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I will. Does a flooded engine usually mean a poor/low compression motor?

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Originally Posted by Peruvianrx7
I will. Does a flooded engine usually mean a poor/low compression motor?

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It will lower the numbers for sure but hard to say how much. Just install new plugs and shoot a little oil in the engine to help rebuild compression and you will be fine assuming it is only flooded.
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Originally Posted by Peruvianrx7
I will. Does a flooded engine usually mean a poor/low compression motor?

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Not at all, you can flood a brand new rx8 from the dealer if you move it around your driveway a few times without letting it warm up.

Your pulses sound good in those videos so I wouldn't worry about it.

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I am sorry to report my engine has blown... I replaced the plugs and heard a nice kaboom once I turn it over... It didn't start then I tried and tried again and it finally started but it sounded like this... With a lot of shaking and the lowest air to fuel mix I have ever seen at idle. I put trailing plugs on top leading plugs on bottom. Firing order is correct. Left to top plug. Middle top to bottom left. Middle bottom to bottom right and right to top right.

Videos just to make sure you all agree is blown...
https://vimeo.com/86635377
https://vimeo.com/86635726
https://vimeo.com/86636476
https://vimeo.com/86638990
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Your videos don't work but I highly doubt your motor is blown. At this point...

Your engine might still be flooded
You could have a stuck injector
A bad coil or plug wire

I would first verify spark on each plug with a testor. Then with the plugs out and ignition harness disconnected but egi fuse plugged in crank the motor over and watch both spark plug holes and see if fuel is coming out of both bank's equally. That should cover most scenarios.

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doesn't really sound blown to me,( could have a chiped seal I suppose sounding like that, I havehad that once),

what are your a/f at idle? sounds like its running REALLLY rich
do you have any aftermarket boost gauge? ususally the gauge will be very shaky if compression has been lost
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Now that I'm home I was able to see the video's. From you description, it sounded like it was running on one rotor. I agree with kompressorlogic, it sounds/looks like its running extremely rich. Is the map sensor hose connected? Can you go to the monitor screen on the powerfc when its running and show the boost value, water temp, and air temp?

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Thank you thewird for all your help. Car is running perfect now... It was flooded. I removed egi cranked it 2 more times and also I had the power FC on another map by mistake...
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glad you got it going!
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Since I posted my car flooded 2 more times with really slow starts....

About 3 months ago I installed race plug wires but besides that I am not sure what the problem could be... I also thought it could be the 17lb Braille battery but even fully charged I still get the slow starts. By slow I mean it tries to crank doesn't catch then cranks again and still it doesn't quite catch then it cranks, starts and idles.
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You have new plugs in there?

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Old 03-10-14, 08:48 PM
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Yeah they are brand new... It's funny because it never happens on hot starts only after the car has been sitting all night or after 8 hrs or more
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Could be coolant leaking into the motor or a leaky fuel injector. Less likely based on description but could be a bad coil too.

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I believe there was an increase in fuel on my previous oil analysis. Ill wait another 1000k miles and do another oil analysis to see what it shows. My coolant levels are good and I'm not overheating and or smell coolant. I don't k ow how to check for a leaky fuel injector. Could a bad fuel filter be the culprit as well or the plug wires.
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If your fuel injectors are stock, pull the fuel rails out while leaving the hoses attatched etc. and turn the fuel pump on. See if they leak. If you have a coolant leak in the early stages, you might not have any external symptoms.

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They were rebuild by rc engineering 3 months ago. It must be the coolant
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Originally Posted by Peruvianrx7
They were rebuild by rc engineering 3 months ago. It must be the coolant
That doesn't mean squat to be honest :P

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