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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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can you heel toe w/ stock pedals?

i find it hard to heel toe with the stock pedals. i think it might be because the brake pedal is sticking out too much compared to the gas pedal. think it should be adjustable. anybody have this problem?
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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I can't heel toe either. I've tried messing with the position of the seat to make it easier to move my leg but it only makes things worse. I'd like to know how people do it also.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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I can do it fine no problem I don't find it all that difficult, although I wouldn't mind having a gas pedal that was a little wider
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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You can get an extension for the gas pedal that makes it easier.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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I can do it fine no problem I don't find it all that difficult, although I wouldn't mind having a gas pedal that was a little wider
If you dont mind me asking, How tall are you and how much do you weigh?
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
You can get an extension for the gas pedal that makes it easier.
any chance you got a link. lazy to search
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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I'm 6'1" and my knees hit the steering wheel and column if I try to actually heel-toe. Doing the toe-side-of-foot isn't easy either.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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I got smaller diameter Momo wheel and can now do it. But there are 2 problems still:
1) gas pedal should be wider (will fix that with an adapter)
2) brake pedal goes in too deep

6' and 220lbs
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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^that thread is quite old and none of the links work except to the corksport website which doesn't have the pedal anymore. also crooked willow doesn't list their pedal on their products page.

so if anyone has a link that lists where pedal can be bought now that would be great.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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I can't heel toe either. I've tried messing with the position of the seat to make it easier to move my leg but it only makes things worse. I'd like to know how people do it also.
Just pivot your knee over toward the center dash panel while braking (the side-foot/toe method). It's so easy that I can't understand the accelerator pedal extensions (and my feet aren't that big); all that does IMO is make that pedal area too crowded. The FD's throttle is really sensitive, so it doesn't take much pedal input to get some revs.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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I've tried that but I end up revving in gear when I don't want to because the brake pedal goes in so far and I can't pivot my knee to counter that becuase I hit the wheel and/or the column. Maybe I just need more practice at it.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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I'm 6'1" and I can easily heel toe with stock pedals. It's not really heel toe, more like a side foot/side foot technique but same thing sorta.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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I'm not that big of a guy, but I have EEE feet. My feet/shoes have pedal extenders built in. The FD is the only car I've felt completely comfortable with in the pedaling dept. On the other hand, I've had trouble with accidentally hitting the gas during braking on some cars. ... and finding a good pair of cowboy boots.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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I've tried that but I end up revving in gear when I don't want to because the brake pedal goes in so far and I can't pivot my knee to counter that becuase I hit the wheel and/or the column. Maybe I just need more practice at it.
You're trying too hard. If you hit the accelerator inadvertently while braking, then get into the habit of moving your foot over the left a bit when you brake. You should be able to just move your knee a bit and get some revs without a problem.
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Originally posted by Azaka
^that thread is quite old and none of the links work except to the corksport website which doesn't have the pedal anymore. also crooked willow doesn't list their pedal on their products page.

so if anyone has a link that lists where pedal can be bought now that would be great.
Contact David Breslau of Widefoot Racing Co.
dbreslau@ContinuumPhotonics.com
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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http://www.spoolsportz.com/resources.php

Have fun with that, the heel toe is at the bottom but the rest are pretty damn good.

Edit: Im 6'1" and I have been trying but cannot heal toe or even side toe with the stock pedals, ill be practicing more but i think im going to need to get some pedal extensions

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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I dont ahve any problem hell toeing i am not as big as the rest of you though i am a somewhat smaller guy only 5 10 and 160 pounds i learned how to do it on my fc and it was a burdon to learn but i i think just doing it aloti s what makes t easier and i have no problem with the fd i do it everyday thoguh at least once or twice jsut for fuan dn practice
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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i would say the rx7 isnt the best to learn on.. find another manual car to get your learn on in
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Re: can you heel toe w/ stock pedals?

Originally posted by ttb
i find it hard to heel toe with the stock pedals. i think it might be because the brake pedal is sticking out too much compared to the gas pedal. think it should be adjustable. anybody have this problem?
I find heel-toeing quite difficult with the stock pedals too. But the side of the foot method works quite well. I'm no experienced racer, hell I'm not even an experienced driver, but just from having a little fun on the street I've gotten proficient at left-righting (can I coin that term? ).

Just start learning by doing it slowly in a parking lot somewhere while going straight, it's much easier to learn one thing while not having to concentrate on another at the same time. Eventually you'll build up to a full blown all out braking experience, which will involve braking right before an off ramp from about 80, downshiting to 4th with a nice left-right, and god damn it'll feel good.

EDIT: I'm 5'8", so I guess being short helps. I didn't start learning on an FD either, I started on my old MX-6, which is a bit less scary being FWD.

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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i think the first thing i'm going to do is try to adjust the brake and gas pedals so they are more level. if that doesn't work i might have to get the widepedal attachment.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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I hit the steering wheel sometimes but its going to change once i get a hub for my new steering wheel.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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I dont have mych trouble. Also check out your shoes. Its crazy how much easier it is to heel/toe with driving shoes or barefoot.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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I go fine in every shift except for 2-1 because my synchros are nasty. You won't be able to really use your heel for the throttle blip because the pedals are so close together. It'll be more of the side of your foot by rolling your ankle and twisting it a little. I just have a little problem with left foot braking with the stock setup. My left knee hits the steering wheel when I bring it over, but that's just something I have to adjust around. I imagine the ablilty to do the shifting and braking could be somewhat enhanced (braking for sure) by a seat and wheel swap for racing parts. Non-reclinable buckets sit you right on the floor in your car.

BTW, shoes do make a difference. I kick *** in some flimsy soft sole Dr. Martens that I like to wear- those and my deck shoes and loafers (or "dad shoes" as the girls call them), but lots of shoes do make it harder to drive the car when it comes to the aspects of footwork. I just think about shoes like a girl when I get up in the morning if I'm planning on driving somewhere.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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I find it a cinch to heel-toe in the FD. I first started in my s13, then FC, now FD. Pedals were a little strange getting used to, but I have no problems whatsoever now. How flexible are you guys? when I rotate my leg, my knee pretty much stays in the same location, only pivots. I'm thinking flexibility may have something to do with the ease of operation. However, I'm 6', 130lbs so that may have something to do with it also.
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