can run downpipe&midpipe with stock ecu?
Originally posted by nopistons94
why do you need to tune a PFC if your car is still ok for the stock map it comes with ?
why do you need to tune a PFC if your car is still ok for the stock map it comes with ?
It'd be another story if you wanted more PSI and didn't want to run lean/rich or something...no?
The FD I am getting has a Hi-Flow Main Cat, if I were to get a DP, it'd have similiar effects as a MP/DP no?
I'm considering PFC before DP, or restoring main cat and just DP (kind of silly to do that though...)...
Originally posted by Mr rx-7 tt
. Everyones engine reacts differently as well yadayada.
from what I have read and researched the stock ecu is built well there are limits too the map set on the stock ecu. Although some people say no dont do it I am one to actually let the stock ecu have a chance if you will. The first and foremost thing to do is to limit the boost to a 10psi level. Also a purchase of a wideband or a cheapo AFR guage will be helpful to make sure you are not leaning out.. Dont hit over 10psi and dont run that bad boy lean and it will work out just fine...The fuel system has to be at its best running status though to make sure enough fuel is coming in.Good luck!
Originally posted by cruiser
Are you sure your boost gauge is showing the right boost ?
I made 250rwhp at 260tq at 12psi with my mods.
Are you sure your boost gauge is showing the right boost ?
I made 250rwhp at 260tq at 12psi with my mods.
Here's that other member I was talking about, just for ***** and giggles who made close to 300hp, on 8 psi.
8 psi ***** and giggles
8 psi ***** and giggles
would this be ok if I have a boost controller set to push below 10lbs and have dp and mp installed on stock ecu? I understand the only concern is over boosting and leaning out from it but if you have a boost controller this shouldn't be a problem should it?
I read a thread posted a while back by adam c, aka cheap bastard king, the write up was about if it was okay running 10lbs on a stock ecu. The problem is that its not necessarily the pounds of boost that changes but rather the new and increased cfm rate flowing into the intake charge. So the 10lbs of boost on a stock fd, is not the same as 10lbs of boost on a modified fd. And that is why you get more power.
From my understanding the problem is that in order to control boost you have to have a restriction in the exhaust, otherwise the turbos are free to spool as fast as they please. The boost controller with free flowing exhaust is not enough to controll boost. With a boost controller and a midpipe it still makes it difficult to controll the boost, especially at the "boost spiking, when secondary comes online". The best way is to add a boost conroller and a restriction plate, or a cat even a high flow, lets just say its extra insurance. Otherwise your playing blackjack and hopefully you don't bust.
From my understanding the problem is that in order to control boost you have to have a restriction in the exhaust, otherwise the turbos are free to spool as fast as they please. The boost controller with free flowing exhaust is not enough to controll boost. With a boost controller and a midpipe it still makes it difficult to controll the boost, especially at the "boost spiking, when secondary comes online". The best way is to add a boost conroller and a restriction plate, or a cat even a high flow, lets just say its extra insurance. Otherwise your playing blackjack and hopefully you don't bust.
Last edited by lopedl; Jul 11, 2004 at 05:40 PM.
Originally posted by cruiser
Are you sure your boost gauge is showing the right boost ?
I made 250rwhp at 260tq at 12psi with my mods.
Are you sure your boost gauge is showing the right boost ?
I made 250rwhp at 260tq at 12psi with my mods.
i put down 251rwhp @ 8lbs with intake downpipe and catback. your car isnt running right. you should have more HP then torque. mine was 236tq.
AFR was flatlined on 10 (or lower, 10 was the lowest reading)
I ran a stock ecu for about 6 months with fmic, catback, mp, dp, intake, greddy elbow, (almost every bolt-on) and had no problems. I looped my vaccum line so I would not see more than 8lbs. of boost. Also if you get a air/fuel monitor like my innovate system, you can make sure you will be safe.
Originally posted by racerfoo
i put down 251rwhp @ 8lbs with intake downpipe and catback. your car isnt running right. you should have more HP then torque. mine was 236tq.
AFR was flatlined on 10 (or lower, 10 was the lowest reading)
i put down 251rwhp @ 8lbs with intake downpipe and catback. your car isnt running right. you should have more HP then torque. mine was 236tq.
AFR was flatlined on 10 (or lower, 10 was the lowest reading)

I hope that high-flow muffler and ignition amp will solve that for me
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