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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 20B-Power
Who installed it? Let's see what they say? Let's see them say it had bad welds ...If it did why did they install it?
On page one, he said...

Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
A-rod, sorry to hear about the problems you're having. Maybe Fluidyne has went downhill in the past couple of years---I've been running one since around 2001, and my dad since 2002. At Gotham we used to install them on all the FDs that needed a rad, this back in 2002-2003. Never seen a problem with them, but that's going back a few years.....
So there you have it. Tried and true on his personal car.

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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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As far as adding to the ast, have you burped the system? since you just added a hole bunch of coolant there could be air in the there making the coolant level drop.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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I've seen a Fluidyne core (with custom end tanks) withstand enough pressure to kill a Davies-Craig electric water pump. We called Davies-Craig, and they sent us their newest version which was designed to tolerate higher pressures. What is the rating of your pressure cap? My team ran a 30-psi pressure cap, I believe Fluidyne advised us that their core might not handle much more than that. Note that most RX-7's don't see even half this pressure, the stock cap is 13psi, and most aftermarket caps are 16-19psi.


Give them a call or shoot them an email to see if they'll help you out. If you're too pissed to install their product on your car, you can sell the new radiator on ebay or something.

Where did the radiator fail? I'd also like to see photos.


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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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I noticed that myself, but I'm curious as to what a court would have to say about it. If every warranty worked like that, don't you think Wal-Mart would have some sort of "Enter at your own risk" signs to prevent them from being sued every day?
That's a completely different issue. A product warranty issue, which only does damage to things, vs. personal injury, which puts the well being of people in danger. Think of what's more important to our society. That being said, some warranties or contract clauses are struck down because it's unfair. IMO, this isn't one of the situations.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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I've learned a lot about "good" and "bad" welds since I've had the radiator. In NO way am I blaming the failure on the people that installed it. I'm not sure if ALL Fluidynes look this shitty, or just the one I bought; but in any case, they don't look good at all. I bought a "top notch" radiator, and not knowing what a good weld was, assumed they had done a decent job. I don't think it's a crime not knowing what good and bad welding looks like, but I'm glad that I know now, because it has been VERY useful when looking at car parts. I'm still nowhere near being an expert, but I can tell you that these welds look like a little kid in a poor country made them.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by morexviit
That's a completely different issue. A product warranty issue, which only does damage to things, vs. personal injury, which puts the well being of people in danger. Think of what's more important to our society. That being said, some warranties or contract clauses are struck down because it's unfair. IMO, this isn't one of the situations.
I guess it isn't the best example I could have used, but my point is that companies should have to make a product that won't fail and destroy what you are attaching it to.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by seanfd3s
As far as adding to the ast, have you burped the system? since you just added a hole bunch of coolant there could be air in the there making the coolant level drop.
I burped the system for about half of a day, and continued to do so for a few days after. Now it has been about 3 weeks, and still needs to be topped-off every day or two. Like I said, I'm going to pressure test it and see if I can find a very tiny leak(which must only leak while it is running, as there are no puddles anywhere after I park).
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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wondering..I heard that the Rad caps are a different Range than Stock.(on the Fc's anyways)..did you use their cap?..the Oem Cap is supposedly rated Lower to prevent any damage to coolant Seals(.9 bar).A pressure test of the rad will Tell all,but I am not sure whether you should do that,as the manufacturer may say that,This is why your Rad crapped out(to get out of the whole Thing)...anyhow,Two cents in.If I am out of my league with My opinion,My apologies.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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^No, I appreciate ALL opinions, other than "you're trying to get something for nothing", because that is simply not the whole story.

I like to look back on the entire thread and analyze everyone's opinions, and make my decision from there.

I'm not going to take the action I suggested, but I'm going to give them a call and see what they can do for me. Hopefully they're a decent company that will stand behind their products, but who knows?
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MADDSLOW
Thanks pal, but I'm not some loser that thinks that because of a mistake I made that I'm entitled to free stuff. The radiator was CLEARLY very poorly made, dumped all of my coolant, and now my seals are quite possibly(99%) blown.

I understand that it is an older vehicle with very old seals, but lets compare it to another situation... just because someone is old, can you sell them a shitty breathing machine, and when your garbage equipment breaks down and kills them, say it is ok because they were old and might have died on their own, anyway? NO! So don't come in here preaching like I'm trying to take something that wouldn't rightfully mine, I'm against lawsuits like that 99% of the time, but this is an instance where it is very obvious that a manufacturer's product had direct involvement in the engine's failure.

Some people just **** me off...

Dude, I apologize. I completely misread your post and jumped the gun on you. I had someone attempt a bullshit lawsuit on me years ago (I lost in the end, 2k to a lying ******* landlord) so I just skimmed your post and attacked you for what I thought I read.


Seriously, my bad.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Yea give them a call tell them what happened and see what they say. Let us know, I would defiantly like to know for sure what the end result of this will be.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 20B-Power
Nothing against you but if it has that bad of welds why did you install it? Think about it. Did you notice the bad welds after what you are claiming that it had a crack or whatever caused the leak. How do we know it was installed correctly and not banged up. Just suck up the loss and forget it. You will never win this case.. Sorry to say this but it's the truth...
Guys, if you haven't read the posts in the thread (and you should before posting), the radiator was NOT installed by him. He had some very knowledgeable people (who are on the forum) do the install. There was approximately 3000 miles put on the car after the installation up to the point of the problem.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by spandy
Dude, I apologize. I completely misread your post and jumped the gun on you. I had someone attempt a bullshit lawsuit on me years ago (I lost in the end, 2k to a lying ******* landlord) so I just skimmed your post and attacked you for what I thought I read.


Seriously, my bad.
Understood, thanks.

I'm going to give Fluidyne a call in a few minutes and see what I can make happen. It might be better for me to have one of my friends do it or something, as I'm not very good at demanding things over the phone...
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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I would wait to call them until you have photos to send as well. I guarantee you they've burst tested a bunch of radiators at their facility; they should be able to easily spot a radiator failure due to bad welding.

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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Any pictures of these bad welds?
My koyo was TIG welded and before putting it in, was rather impressed with the quality of the welds. Curious to see what your's looked like
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MADDSLOW
Oh I know why... the shitty MIG welding all around the entire unit. I swear, I really think I could do a better job of putting that thing together myself. These companies nowadays manufacture items so poorly; it's ridiculous, and very disappointing. I would expect this kind of work had I bought a no-name ebay piece of garbage, but not from a company like this. The plastic on my stocker holds up better than their ****-poor welding.
Hate to say it but even if the problems turns out to be poor workmanship on there part the best you'll do is a replacement radiator from them, or possibly a refund. Most company's that offer any kind of garunty only do so on the part purchased and not anything that results from that failure.
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