crazyflipcarlo

my radiator fan is not working, my friend checked the fuse, the wirings and still not working....i turned the A/C heater radio wiper every dang thing i can think of, but still not working. i just wanna make sure if theres anything else that can check before i buy a new one.


;;;;other question....
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PHOTO:
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/...ars/engine.jpg

the R? what is that?....it says "NEVER OPEN" just wanna know why its there if i can't open it....

AND THIS:
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/...cars/rotor.jpg
the bottom right rotor is not spinning? that's the AC right? well the A/C was on when i took this picture.

KaiFD3S

iTrader: (37)

the AST is where you have the R,

yes that is the a/c

check thermoswitch and thermostat..if you have a temp gauge let the sit and idle and see if the fans go on

crazyflipcarlo

where is the thermoswitch?
the thermostat is new, i just replaced it 2 weeks ago...

i dont have a temp gauge, i can c heck the one in the dashb.

dont know but yesterday, for some reason my car's temp was going up (to the white line) so i turned the fan on shut down. it was working lastnite, today its not.......

talljosh85

iTrader: (3)

I couldn't figure out why one of my fans wasn't working, the wiring and the other fan worked fine, so I pulled it apart and found the motor to be fried. Hopefully you wont have this problem, since the fans are very expensive from mazda, and not too cheap used. Sorry this isn't super helpful, but good luck anyways. Josh

crazyflipcarlo

i think its about $90.

crazyflipcarlo

wait, both of my fans are not working, would it be possible that the problem is electrical? since its almost impossible for two motors get fried at the same time..or is it?

spurvo

Another thing you can try is grounding the terminal listed as "TFA" in the diagnosis box. To do this, find the little plastic box labled Diagnosis next to the battery (just behind it, really). Open the top of that box. Inside the lid of the box, you will see a schematic of the different terminals and their relevant locations. With the key turned to "on" (where the indicator lights are lit on the dashboard), place a wire from the TFA terminal in the diagnosis box to one of the terminals lables GRD (for ground). The fans should turn on. If only one turns on, the other is burnt out needs to be replaced. Make sure you verify both are on or not. You need to pull the intake cross over box (the black flat thing in the very front held on by two 10 mm bolts) If neither turn on, you need to look to the relays to make sure they are ok. If you already did this, then trace further back.

In your upper photo, the "R" is the AST. The part you labled "AST" is actually the filler neck, where you should check your coolant level. The "coolant" label is for the overflow tank.

There should be a pressure cap on the AST (the part you labled as "R"). A pressure cap has the spring and the lower sealing ring. The filler neck (where you labled AST) should have only a flat cap. This should have no spring, only a piece of rubber on the very inside of the cap itself. The lable "Never open" is just the torn version of "Never open while hot! Serious injury could result"

You want a level in the overflow about halfway up the stick between the F and E marks When the engine is dead cold. It will fill when the engine is hot, but should drop back down when the engine cools off. You want the filler neck to be as full as possible, and you want it to stay that way evey time you check the level at the filler neck when the engine is dead cold. The AST should remain full as well.

Hope this helps...

crazyflipcarlo

^ thanks bro. it did helped a lot actually. ive been wondering lots of things in the engine bay. the manual makes me dizzy..

im going to do that first thing you said, about grounding and all. ill let you know..........

oh and ive been looking for a filler cap, i can't find any, i need to replace mine. i tried the internet but they just sell the 'filler neck with the cap', can't buy the cap separate..can you guys help me find this? thanks again.

PandazRx-7

iTrader: (18)

Not sure if this helps but I had a problem with my fans not turning on because my water thermsensor was malfunctioning...BUT the fans still came ON when I turned the A/C on.

crazyflipcarlo

ok, i basiclly did everything what you told me here ^. when i connect ed the TFA to the GND, it makes a ticking sound on the left side of my car.....i disconnected the fan and TFA+GND again and still ticks...what is that?

i guess the problem is the fan's motor. neways, i called 3 warehouses already to order a new one but they dont have it in stock, and they can't order it for me (WTF). can u guys give me a good warehouse or website i can order from.. thanks for your help bro.

ohye, please give me some knowledge here. what causes the fan(motor whatever) to blowup? does overheating has to do something wit it? driving under super hot weather? or just fans being too old.

crazyflipcarlo

pandaz, thanks for the help, but my fan does not work at all, i urned everything on, even my radio and still not working. thanks tho.

GoRacer

iTrader: (2)

You have the AST and R labled incorectly in the top photo. The plastic thing is the AST. The metal thing is refered to as the filler neck and (radiator) filler cap in the manual.

Is your A/C pulley not turning in the second picture?

Try Mazdatrix, Mazdaformance for the oem fan motors and jt-imports for the newer '99+ motors.

crazyflipcarlo

ok, you are not going to belive this ****.....after all these tesing i thought my fans failed, i mean seriously, i did everything SPURVO told me to do, guess what...

i started the engine just for the heck of it, i started pressing buttons...started by turning the heater up high, turned the lights on, parking lights, radio, hit my ******* steering wheel, step on the cluth, went to first, 2nd, 3rd, then finally i pressed the A/C button....then that bith started to fucken work!! i know i pressed that **** before, but now its fucken working...so its not fucked up blown up or whatever, that bitch works!! only if i press the Goddem A/C button. NOW WHAT IS THE FUCKEN PROBLEM HERE? ITS EAITHER IM RETARDED OR THIS CAR IS FUCKEN RETARDED.....

i apologize for cursing too much, i am just Pissedoff, after all those times i wsted thinking waht to fucken do.

but seriously, whats the problem here?should i sell this ************?!

GoRacer

iTrader: (2)

Use the smilies. They don't count as cursing and they make you feel better.

PandazRx-7

iTrader: (18)

Well, maybe you just pressed the A/C button but didn't put the dial on anything before...or you did and it really is F'ed up!

Okay, check it out for a another day...meaning put it on on A/C and "1" and see if it comes on every time. If it comes on, it's probably the water thermosensor. Meaning the fans are okay, but the ECU is just not being able to turn it on. Hope that helps, I had a similar problem two months ago...

crazyflipcarlo

thanks bro. i will check it tomorrow. the thermosensor and the thermostat is 2 diff things? i thought they're the same...

i will use the smileys next time i get pissed, right now im cooling down

thanks to all.