Breaking in a new OEM transmission?
02-08-04, 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by paw140
The little magnet on the drain plug is why you don't need to change your tranny oil very often. I'm with Jeff. I would say every 20K miles is a good changing interval.
The little magnet on the drain plug is why you don't need to change your tranny oil very often. I'm with Jeff. I would say every 20K miles is a good changing interval.
I'm already changing my oil every 1-1.5k and sparks every 3k.. I rather be cautious then simple things costing me more money later on..
02-09-04, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by jt-imports
So you just have a little drain plug with a magnet on your engine too and just change it every 20K too? Hummm not me.......................................
So you just have a little drain plug with a magnet on your engine too and just change it every 20K too? Hummm not me.......................................
If it makes you feel good to change your tranny fluid every few months, then go right ahead. But you are wasting your time and money. Go look in any owners manual for any manual transmission car. I bet the changing intervals are somewhere between 50K and 100K.
02-09-04, 10:12 AM
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I agree w/ JT-Imports and Herblenny.
While I'm not in the financial position to purchase a new tranny, I will offer my views on the situation.
In drifting, one of the main killers of LSDs is fluid contamination. I have friends who regularly change out their differential fluid before and after every competition.
That being said, I would generally apply the same logic to trannys. Not that I would change out the fluid every single competition, but for a normal street car, I would recommend flushing out the fluid for the first time at roughly 1 month or so....just to see what the fluid looks like, the amount of metal particles, etc. Similar to how you would check the oil (and filter) after 1,000+ miles of a freshly built motor.
Then, check the fluid again at 3 months. If things seem good, you should determine when you should regularly change out the fluid.
Keep in mind that this is based on your personal driving habits and mileage. I will admit, I drive a lot! I drive darn near twice the national average....roughly 23,000 miles every year.
My own opinion/preference would be to change out the tranny fluid every 6 months (based on my personal driving habits). I think the "normal" recommendation from most dealerships and places like Jiffy Lube or EZ Lube will tell you one year.
While I'm not in the financial position to purchase a new tranny, I will offer my views on the situation.
In drifting, one of the main killers of LSDs is fluid contamination. I have friends who regularly change out their differential fluid before and after every competition.
That being said, I would generally apply the same logic to trannys. Not that I would change out the fluid every single competition, but for a normal street car, I would recommend flushing out the fluid for the first time at roughly 1 month or so....just to see what the fluid looks like, the amount of metal particles, etc. Similar to how you would check the oil (and filter) after 1,000+ miles of a freshly built motor.
Then, check the fluid again at 3 months. If things seem good, you should determine when you should regularly change out the fluid.
Keep in mind that this is based on your personal driving habits and mileage. I will admit, I drive a lot! I drive darn near twice the national average....roughly 23,000 miles every year.
My own opinion/preference would be to change out the tranny fluid every 6 months (based on my personal driving habits). I think the "normal" recommendation from most dealerships and places like Jiffy Lube or EZ Lube will tell you one year.
02-09-04, 10:39 AM
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Changing the tranny fluid every 6 mo is just silly on a street driven car. Even if you do drive 23K/yr. The factory recommends 30K service intervals and most FDs (even most manual trans cars) would be lucky if they get that.
The tranny does not need that kind of servicing. The FD isn't some super exotic, the trans is effectively the same thing in the TII and some earlier rotary applications.
For some reason many people that "love" thier car end up being the ones who kill it. They tend to do maintenance in some ritualistic methods that are excessive and ridiculous.
The "normal" recommendation from most dealerships and Jiffy Lube reflects their bottom line. Jiffy Lube recommends 3K mile oil changes, but my wife's old 95 Maxima (now has 150K miles) is living fine on 5K mile oil changes and my 92 F-150 is doing fine also w/135K miles, and at least 30K of those miles are towing miles.
Dealerships recommend service based on what $$ they can get out of you. A local dealership here recommends a fresh alignment every 5K miles on 4x4 trucks. A friend of mine's girlfriend had $750 worth of "maintenance" done to her NEW truck in the first 12,000 miles, which included 3 alignments...
The tranny does not need that kind of servicing. The FD isn't some super exotic, the trans is effectively the same thing in the TII and some earlier rotary applications.
For some reason many people that "love" thier car end up being the ones who kill it. They tend to do maintenance in some ritualistic methods that are excessive and ridiculous.
The "normal" recommendation from most dealerships and Jiffy Lube reflects their bottom line. Jiffy Lube recommends 3K mile oil changes, but my wife's old 95 Maxima (now has 150K miles) is living fine on 5K mile oil changes and my 92 F-150 is doing fine also w/135K miles, and at least 30K of those miles are towing miles.
Dealerships recommend service based on what $$ they can get out of you. A local dealership here recommends a fresh alignment every 5K miles on 4x4 trucks. A friend of mine's girlfriend had $750 worth of "maintenance" done to her NEW truck in the first 12,000 miles, which included 3 alignments...
02-09-04, 11:23 AM
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For some reason many people that "love" thier car end up being the ones who kill it. They tend to do maintenance in some ritualistic methods that are excessive and ridiculous.
For some reason many people that "love" thier car end up being the ones who kill it. They tend to do maintenance in some ritualistic methods that are excessive and ridiculous.
I think I fit into your description of "excessive and ridiculous".
02-09-04, 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by GOOFYROTOR
MAZDA tranny SUCKS anyway.
just REDLINE the **** if it breaks....U got WARRANTY!!
MAZDA tranny SUCKS anyway.
just REDLINE the **** if it breaks....U got WARRANTY!!
Is it hard to shift? yes. Is the shift **** too high? yes, does it suck? hell no. I wish my rx-8 had a tranny as tough..but then again I wish the FD's was as nice.
they give 1 year 12k MILES.
02-09-04, 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by herblenny
Hmm.. Maybe I should follow the owners manual and change my oil every 5k miles or every 5 months..
I think I fit into your description of "excessive and ridiculous".
Hmm.. Maybe I should follow the owners manual and change my oil every 5k miles or every 5 months..
I think I fit into your description of "excessive and ridiculous".
02-09-04, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by herblenny
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I think I fit into your description of "excessive and ridiculous".
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I think I fit into your description of "excessive and ridiculous".
02-09-04, 11:50 AM
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hard to shift-yes
shift **** tooo HIgh has nuttin to do with it.
does it SUCKS- YES
MAZDA does not have a good design on the tranny
the gate for each gear does NOT go in smooth.
FORK breaks 3rd&5th GEAR forks shears off
5th gear is the worst, PROBLEMS during normal driving
the throw is too FAR apart.
if youre a true RACER youll notice it!
and as for 600RWHP, its ONLY a claim!
JUST LIKE RX-8 puts out 250RWHP.
shift **** tooo HIgh has nuttin to do with it.
does it SUCKS- YES
MAZDA does not have a good design on the tranny
the gate for each gear does NOT go in smooth.
FORK breaks 3rd&5th GEAR forks shears off
5th gear is the worst, PROBLEMS during normal driving
the throw is too FAR apart.
if youre a true RACER youll notice it!
and as for 600RWHP, its ONLY a claim!
JUST LIKE RX-8 puts out 250RWHP.
02-09-04, 03:37 PM
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okay...the 600RWHP mark is true....id like to see you show me a list of FD's that have a different tranny in them because they broke the stock one. The throw is insignificant because any 'true RACER" will get a short shifter...my dad's BMW 540i 6spd had a long throw stock, so does that automatically mean the ZF tranny in the 540i and the M5 suck? NO. The only flaw in the FD's transmission is the 5th gear synchro and some spring/retainer whose name i cant remember. If you fix that no more 3rd/5th gear problems. The FD tranny is damn bulletproof IMO 
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02-09-04, 03:38 PM
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The turbo rotary engine is a different animal when it comes to oil changes. Fuel is forced into the oil under boost significantly changing the servicable life of the engine oil.
What unfortunately happens is that "people" think that just because the FD's engine is different they think everything else on it is also. The diff is a diff, the trans is a trans (pretty stout at that). The brakes are brakes. Do you flush the brake fluid on a "normal street driven car" every few months also? I've had 16 FDs, only 1 had a 5th gear syncro problem and the brake system as a whole (not counting pads) was in excellent working condition.
The trans is just a trans. It does NOT suck but it could be better. The WRX has a POS trans.
What unfortunately happens is that "people" think that just because the FD's engine is different they think everything else on it is also. The diff is a diff, the trans is a trans (pretty stout at that). The brakes are brakes. Do you flush the brake fluid on a "normal street driven car" every few months also? I've had 16 FDs, only 1 had a 5th gear syncro problem and the brake system as a whole (not counting pads) was in excellent working condition.
The trans is just a trans. It does NOT suck but it could be better. The WRX has a POS trans.
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Originally posted by teamstealth
okay...the 600RWHP mark is true....id like to see you show me a list of 20 FD's that have a different tranny in them because they broke the stock one. The throw is insignificant because any 'true RACER" will get a short shifter...my dad's BMW 540i had a long throw stock, so does that automatically mean the ZF tranny in the 540i and the M5 suck? NO. The only flaw in the FD's transmission is the 5th gear synchro and spring. If you fix that no more 3rd/5th gear problems.
okay...the 600RWHP mark is true....id like to see you show me a list of 20 FD's that have a different tranny in them because they broke the stock one. The throw is insignificant because any 'true RACER" will get a short shifter...my dad's BMW 540i had a long throw stock, so does that automatically mean the ZF tranny in the 540i and the M5 suck? NO. The only flaw in the FD's transmission is the 5th gear synchro and spring. If you fix that no more 3rd/5th gear problems.
his name is "goofy rotor" and he capitizes like every 5th word. Nuff said.
02-09-04, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
Team,
his name is "goofy rotor" and he capitizes like every 5th word. Nuff said.
Team,
his name is "goofy rotor" and he capitizes like every 5th word. Nuff said.
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Im just saying a tranny change of oil would be good after a "breakin period" if the parts are IN FACT New, do what you want of course its just what I would do. Its your car bro.
TRANNIES!*
I disagree also Mazda has pretty good trannys.
NISSAN trannys have more snycho problems then us.
TRANNIES!*
I disagree also Mazda has pretty good trannys.
NISSAN trannys have more snycho problems then us.
02-09-04, 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
Yowza! How did you go through that many FDs? I'm curious.
Yowza! How did you go through that many FDs? I'm curious.
Im pretty sure its bad for a tranny to change the oil in it often.
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Originally posted by teamstealth
haha jt i like how u corrected everyone else...then used the "wrong" one in the next sentence!
haha jt i like how u corrected everyone else...then used the "wrong" one in the next sentence!
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
Team,
his name is "goofy rotor" and he capitizes like every 5th word. Nuff said.
Team,
his name is "goofy rotor" and he capitizes like every 5th word. Nuff said.
u can zero out your cant loose bang **** outta here.
(damn i like that)
im sayin it again, RX-7 TRANSMISSIONS R JUNK
my name is "GOOFYROTOR" get it right
02-10-04, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by GOOFYROTOR
i noticed u write a lot here. the problem is, yourE scared to race and met your confrontations when u get challenged here.
u can zero out your cant loose bang **** outta here.
(damn i like that)
im sayin it again, RX-7 TRANSMISSIONS R JUNK
my name is "GOOFYROTOR" get it right
i noticed u write a lot here. the problem is, yourE scared to race and met your confrontations when u get challenged here.
u can zero out your cant loose bang **** outta here.
(damn i like that)
im sayin it again, RX-7 TRANSMISSIONS R JUNK
my name is "GOOFYROTOR" get it right
OMG, Im arguing with you.