Was bored today, so I built a CO2 intercooler sprayer...
06-13-03, 09:35 AM
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Tons. Liquid CO2 is really, really cold. If you're at a stop light and heat soak, just hit your button for a second before you move and, blam, no more heat soak.
06-13-03, 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Crackers
Umm the hose he is using is just fine. that is rated for 3000+ psi He is using paintball braided line which was designed for CO2 and the use of HPA tanks for paintball guns He will be just fine. ALso the tank is also ok as it is designed for CO2 and has a bust disk by the push bing and will blow instead of the tank rupturing. Co2 has an output pressure of around ~800 psi give or take a 100 psi. With the tank he uses I do belive its regulated at 800psi max if My memory servs me right.. I guess several years in NPPL with HPA you forget about co2 =]
Ohh and By the way I also designed the same thing just it was not nosolated the same way and I used a 68cu Inch tank that holds around 4lbs of CO2 vs the 18oz of a 20oz co2 tank. The tank I used also has a on/off valve so its not dependant on a pushpin style adaptor.
Eitherway Nice job and RonKmiller Don't post unless you know what the **** you're talking about. By the way quality tanks you speak of are cheap as **** you can pick up a 20oz tank for 25 dollars and would serve the purpose of a Streat race just fine or you can buy a CarbonWrapped or even a steal 68cu Inch tank for around 50-150 dollars and that would last quite some time on a track day.
P.S. I have a wholesale account with National Paintball Supplys, WarpedSports, ShockTek, & whole bunch of other paintball supply co.s
Umm the hose he is using is just fine. that is rated for 3000+ psi He is using paintball braided line which was designed for CO2 and the use of HPA tanks for paintball guns He will be just fine. ALso the tank is also ok as it is designed for CO2 and has a bust disk by the push bing and will blow instead of the tank rupturing. Co2 has an output pressure of around ~800 psi give or take a 100 psi. With the tank he uses I do belive its regulated at 800psi max if My memory servs me right.. I guess several years in NPPL with HPA you forget about co2 =]
Ohh and By the way I also designed the same thing just it was not nosolated the same way and I used a 68cu Inch tank that holds around 4lbs of CO2 vs the 18oz of a 20oz co2 tank. The tank I used also has a on/off valve so its not dependant on a pushpin style adaptor.
Eitherway Nice job and RonKmiller Don't post unless you know what the **** you're talking about. By the way quality tanks you speak of are cheap as **** you can pick up a 20oz tank for 25 dollars and would serve the purpose of a Streat race just fine or you can buy a CarbonWrapped or even a steal 68cu Inch tank for around 50-150 dollars and that would last quite some time on a track day.
P.S. I have a wholesale account with National Paintball Supplys, WarpedSports, ShockTek, & whole bunch of other paintball supply co.s
I've worked for the last 25 years as an FAA Certified
Airframe and Powerplant Supervisor. I have repaired, built and installed hydraulic systems on probably 25 different kinds of prop planes, helicopters and jets. I then certify them for flight. I supervise other mechanics work and then sign off on it. I don't expect him to build something to FAA airworthiness standards which would probably cost $1K. I DO expect him to spend a couple of hundred and build something he won't have to constantly worry about from an inferior component failure when the interior temperature reaches 140F on a hot day with the windows rolled up.
I'm just trying to help the guy avoid killing himself.
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06-13-03, 11:07 AM
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Actually, a system like this won a performance award at SEMA in 2002. I tried like hell to get DEi to be a sponsor of my RX7 Revolution event, but they had previous commitments.
http://www.designengineering.com/cry...ation_kit.html
I found it interesting that Vosko was worried about the C02 in the intake. DEi actually makes a coupler that sprays the air coming into the intercooler. And they have a fuel line cooler as well, all one large system. Does the C02 in the system make that big of a deal?
I have been staring this system down for months (of course now I'm thinking maybe it's too expensive, lol).
Looks good, keep us informed how your Home Depot/eBay model works out.
http://www.designengineering.com/cry...ation_kit.html
I found it interesting that Vosko was worried about the C02 in the intake. DEi actually makes a coupler that sprays the air coming into the intercooler. And they have a fuel line cooler as well, all one large system. Does the C02 in the system make that big of a deal?
I have been staring this system down for months (of course now I'm thinking maybe it's too expensive, lol).
Looks good, keep us informed how your Home Depot/eBay model works out.
06-24-03, 12:16 PM
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Hey, would it be possible to fog the outside of the UIM as well? That's the other REALLY hot portion (besides the LIM, and that thing is HOPELESS!) or the intake flow path, and it would also lower the intake temp sensor to reduce the lean condition.
06-25-03, 03:34 AM
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yeh watch the c02 into your intake thing.... i've seen cars lose 40rwhp on the dyno while trying to get cooler intake temps by spaying the i/c. Your setup looks pretty good though.
06-25-03, 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by RonKMiller
Ummm, he said he bought high pressure line for an ICE MAKER at Home Depot in his first post which is what I responded to. 3,000 psi rating? You obviously don't know **** about shinola junior. There is a big difference in hoses from working pressure and burst pressure. But you're an expert at paintball so you obviously know what you're talking about....
I've worked for the last 25 years as an FAA Certified
Airframe and Powerplant Supervisor. I have repaired, built and installed hydraulic systems on probably 25 different kinds of prop planes, helicopters and jets. I then certify them for flight. I supervise other mechanics work and then sign off on it. I don't expect him to build something to FAA airworthiness standards which would probably cost $1K. I DO expect him to spend a couple of hundred and build something he won't have to constantly worry about from an inferior component failure when the interior temperature reaches 140F on a hot day with the windows rolled up.
I'm just trying to help the guy avoid killing himself.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
Ummm, he said he bought high pressure line for an ICE MAKER at Home Depot in his first post which is what I responded to. 3,000 psi rating? You obviously don't know **** about shinola junior. There is a big difference in hoses from working pressure and burst pressure. But you're an expert at paintball so you obviously know what you're talking about....
I've worked for the last 25 years as an FAA Certified
Airframe and Powerplant Supervisor. I have repaired, built and installed hydraulic systems on probably 25 different kinds of prop planes, helicopters and jets. I then certify them for flight. I supervise other mechanics work and then sign off on it. I don't expect him to build something to FAA airworthiness standards which would probably cost $1K. I DO expect him to spend a couple of hundred and build something he won't have to constantly worry about from an inferior component failure when the interior temperature reaches 140F on a hot day with the windows rolled up.
I'm just trying to help the guy avoid killing himself.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
Below is Palmer Pursuit that has thier 3kpsi rated stealbraded line Im trying to get pictures of above 3k but no one has pics
http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/CATALOG/fittings.htm
I can't find no ******* pics of any of out HPA systems but either way you are an idiot and you don't know what we use. They can handle 3000+PSI
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06-25-03, 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Crackers
Im sorry that you are an ignorent ****. ...but either way you are an idiot
Im sorry that you are an ignorent ****. ...but either way you are an idiot
But, are we talking about RonKMiller here?If so, I have to agree.
07-13-03, 08:59 PM
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From what I seem to hear and see just shoot BEFORE you run to cool the intercooler and what that you you dont have the danger of is getting in the intake and still get a cooler charge.
07-13-03, 10:05 PM
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My nephew was down in Daytona, FL for some motorcycle event. He was at a dyno challenge and saw guys with turbo bikes spraying their ICs and freezing them before the dyno run.
I assume they are spraying CO2.
I need to know the cheapest place I can buy something quick to spray my IC for a dyno contest. It's kinda of a one time deal.
Thanx,
I assume they are spraying CO2.
I need to know the cheapest place I can buy something quick to spray my IC for a dyno contest. It's kinda of a one time deal.
Thanx,
07-13-03, 11:13 PM
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Well guys, hmm since this thread was brought back to life....
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great...
BUT after all the **** that people have been posting acting like im some sort of ignorant idiot, I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great...
BUT after all the **** that people have been posting acting like im some sort of ignorant idiot, I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
07-14-03, 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Fujikuro
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great..., I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great..., I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
Come on Fuji, spill the bean . We all wanna know how it worked out on ya . may be even try it out ourselves
07-14-03, 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Fujikuro
Well guys, hmm since this thread was brought back to life....
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great...
BUT after all the **** that people have been posting acting like im some sort of ignorant idiot, I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
Well guys, hmm since this thread was brought back to life....
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great...
BUT after all the **** that people have been posting acting like im some sort of ignorant idiot, I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
So please, enlighten us...you might find you get great response (like I want one, bad lol...)
Thanks!
07-14-03, 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Fujikuro
Well guys, hmm since this thread was brought back to life....
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great...
BUT after all the **** that people have been posting acting like im some sort of ignorant idiot, I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
Well guys, hmm since this thread was brought back to life....
Just an update, I finished the setup, and it works great...
BUT after all the **** that people have been posting acting like im some sort of ignorant idiot, I don't know if I should post pics or the final update...
Hmmm, maybe after I track test it I will post the results. Keep guessin' for now I guess.
07-14-03, 09:58 PM
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Im not sure if anyone has seen but summitsportcompact.com has had a system like this for a few months now it uses co2. They also have a intake and fuel bar cooler. But you can always just build one for a lot cheaper like Fujikuro.
07-14-03, 11:03 PM
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This tubing goes in front of the intercooler, right? If so, it ruins the look of the beautiful intercooler! Couldn't something be fabricated that would run only along the top of the opening in the bumper so that it would not be seen unless someone is crouched down looking for it? I guess then that maybe the sprayer doesn't spray hard enough; therefore, not enough of the intercooler would be affected thus defeating the purpose. Am I on track?