BNR Stage 3 Updates from BNR
 

Hey Everyone. Long time no see! I wanted to inform everyone that I have seemed to find the problem with the smoking on the stage 3's! I have tried some new oil supply pills that I have had in the car for about 3 weeks now. I have been beating on the turbos, running about 17 psi on them everyday since installing them. I am doing some testing on my own car to pin point the problem, and luckily I have stopped about 90% of the smoking. I might be able to stop all of it here in the next several weeks. It would be a great thing to solve this lingering problem. After about another 2 or 3 weeks, I will rip the turbos off the car, take em apart and inspect the shafts/bearings for oil starvation. If all checks out well, we are home free! Hope everyone is satisfied with their turbos!

Bryan
www.bnrsupercars.com
205 663 4797

That's great news, Bryan :).

I'm happy with mine.....the smoking has been very minimal since I installed the "modded" oil feed banjo bolts.

Keep us updated, man.

Mine are working great except for some coolant leak I gotta find. That should be addressed today or tomorrow if I have the time. Mine is still smoking, haven't installed a catch tank yet. But im not sure if that will take care of the problem.

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I thought the oil pill lines were long gone solved?

It pretty much was, after changing the pills a long time ago I rarely ever get any smoke and whenever I do its barely noticable. I always kinda figured it was cause I was premixing real heavy though.....and it might be, I dont really know.

BTW - As usuall they are running awsome hehe

STEPHEN

Nice, always good to hear when a company is doing research and developement, even on their products that are already released. I think I'll wait a bit and see if all the kinks get worked out before I order mine :)

Keep us posted.

It's not while boosting though, that's just fine.

They just go "Spy Hunter" style at idle. Sometimes and sometimes not..

"spy hunter" bwahaha

Kinda weird, Cavelli. Just spoke with my father and he told me the smoke is very, very minimal. Not only that, but he thinks it's actually fuel (not oil) at idle. Nothing like what it was before the modded oil feed banjo bolts. I can remember Steve's entire cul-de-sac being obscured :D.

I'm sure we'll get it fixed--an oil catch tank might help as well.

Rich

This makes me wish I sprung for the Stage 2's...:(

I'm confused--do you have a set of stage 3s in the mail? Personally, my R1 barely smokes at all anymore (I'm the only one that notices it) and the quicker spoolup makes the 3s much more attractive to me over the 2s......

No, it's more than minimal. And I'm having to add a quart of oil every 300-400 miles or so it's burning so much.

GoodfellaFD3S and Spurvo are the only two I've seen with the Stage 3's and no problems.

I'm sure BNR will get the bugs worked out. Just be patient.

A local guy has the Stage 3s. They are smoking "spy hunter" style even WITH the new banjo bolts. He is also going through a similar oiling rate as Cavellm.

I hope Bryan gets these bugs worked out. Pioneering products is always difficult.

My good friend out in NJ, Nick Haralam, and a customer in Abilene TX, Eddie (drifter93 here) both have the Stage 3s with no oil smoke problem. I had a bad case of it before installing the modded oil feed banjo bolts. Are all of those having problems running these little suckers?

Rich

Same here as Rynberg. Local friend was smuggling army platoons around the streets using the Stage 3's even with the updated banjo bolts. There are other problems going on but I'm not going to comment on those until I see what happens over the next week or so.

This makes me second guess the Stage 3s :(

Actually, Eddie (drifter93) was down in good ol' Del Rio a couple weeks ago and after I stopped and talked to him, I followed him out of the gas station and noticed that after he got into a little boost and then stopped at the light there was a bit of white-ish smoke. It didn't look like anything bad, but it is there...

is it the improper amount of oil that is causing the smoking probs or is it the seals themselves?

i had a similar problem when i first got my m2 twins...i ran them without the restrictor pills and got some smoke...with the restrictors in I have no more problems at all...no leaks...no oil in the IC...nuthin...they are cherry.

if its not a prob with the seals then it should be just a matter of getting the right size restrictor pills in there.

a catch can would take care of the problem as well I would think.


j

Well, oil smoke is blue, darker. Fuel smoke would be a lighter gray. He may just be running rich and/or with fouled plugs.

Guys, don't blow this out of proportion. Bryan obviously stands behind his work, and whatever problem there is with some of the Stage 3s will be fixed soon. Kyle, whatever you decide to do with your rex, it won't leave Gotham until you're 100% satisfied :).

Wrong, I am....His car was bad none the less..:bigthumb:

Oh, don't get me wrong--it may very well be oil smoke. Hopefully this can all get sorted out, b/c the Stage 3s are badass turbos :).

These turbos will be my first purchase when I get my next FD. The one that I'm looking at has everything else already done plus some. Those will make a great addition to my upcoming FD project. Can't wait to get back stateside.

Zach

Mine are REALLY bad. Just got the Stage 3's which I waited 2 weeks for. My mechanic installed them and I'm smoking bad. Just got the new bolts and 2 more days in the shop, STILL smoking bad. Every time I lift up on the gas I blacken the car behind me. When I accelerate I also leave a huge cloud of thick smoke.

I'm now doing something that I did not want... attracting every cop in my town.

I might have a bigger problem because I’m only getting 9psi of boost where I usually have 13psi. I think there is something wrong with the 2nd turbo, that seems where most of my oil is coming from. My mechanic told me he got an oil bath from the second turbo when he installed the new bolts.

Like Cavellm I’m burning a quart of oil every 300-400 miles.
I’m with kyle@insight I would wait until the kinks are worked out… wish I would have.

I did not pay $2400 to beta test BNR’s stage 3’s. Now I’m looking at taking the turbos out again ($600 of labor from my mechanic) and getting them fixed. For the price of beta testing the stage 3’s I could have got the new turbos from Masda and that’s if BNR can fix the problem the first time.

For what it’s worth the concept sounded great and if Brian can get the kinks out I’m sure the turbos will rock. The stage 2’s are awesome and I have faith that BNR will overcome the problem, hopefully not at the cost of their customers.

Anyone know how to get a hold of Brian. The website is down and I have called the number several times but it just rings and rings. HELP.