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Atkins- My fault
3
6.00%
Atkins- Their fault
13
26.00%
Gotham- My fault
4
8.00%
Gotham- Their fault
5
10.00%
Hayes- My fault
1
2.00%
Hayes- Their fault
10
20.00%
KD- My fault
3
6.00%
KD- Their fault
62
100.00%
Mazda Reman- My fault
9
18.00%
Mazda Reman- Their fault
12
24.00%
Mazdatrix - My fault
7
14.00%
Mazdatrix- Their fault
3
6.00%
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Blown rebuilds. Who's fault? - Part 1

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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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Having a poll like this is inaccurate because anyone can go and vote, weather true or not. For example, it shows that Gotham has 3 votes that is their fault, but they have not had a single complaint from anyone. I would imagine that if someone had a problem then, then they would let the shop know. As far as I know, everyone that has had a motor built by Gotham is more than satisfied with the performance and reliability.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by fitzrx7
Mazda reman, blew on a freakin cold day due to some tuning I had done on a warmer day and the fact that my AIT sensor was still under the manifold so it didn't react to the colder temps quick enough and ran lean. 2 seals chipped on the front rotor.

Rebuilt it myself (the best way) and now that damn sensor is in the elbow where everyone should move theirs.
How hard is it to re-build a Rotary? i'm looking to buy a 3rd gen with between 60 and 100k on it. could i do it in my garage, and if so, what kinds of tools do i need to pull it off?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by whitey85mtu
How hard is it to re-build a Rotary? i'm looking to buy a 3rd gen with between 60 and 100k on it. could i do it in my garage, and if so, what kinds of tools do i need to pull it off?
Time to start using the search tool. I uncovered a lot when I researched that very subject last month.

You'll need an engine hoist, air tools are a big help, mag-block dial indicator, jack and jackstands, precision straightedge to hit the big items. It can be done in a garage. Rebuilding is more involved than swapping a reman and returning your core. It also requires you to take your time and not make any dumb mistakes (that's not in everyone's composure).

I suggest buying David Turrentine's 13B R&R video to see what's involved with pulling an engine. And searching.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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For those who posted that they blew up a Gotham-built motor and that it was our fault, I would love to hear from you .

To the best of my knowledge, this has yet to happen. I answer 99% of the phone calls here.......I'd like to think I would know about it if we had such unsatisifed customers......

I think your poll has about as much legitimacy as the 1919 World Series, Flybye
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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well, i think people are doing it to show how invalid and bias/unfair the poll is

everyone knows that gotham has yet to drop a motor, so by them having the highest reading, it just makes it looked rigged

that's my $.02, i haven't polled at all
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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**** happens! Every engine builder has problems and no one is perfect. If a shop never has any problems then there not doing much business.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Talking Synthetic Oil?? Good or Bad for rotary motors??

Possible consequences of using synthetic oil on my newly rebuilt rotary motor??
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
For those who posted that they blew up a Gotham-built motor and that it was our fault, I would love to hear from you .

To the best of my knowledge, this has yet to happen. I answer 99% of the phone calls here.......I'd like to think I would know about it if we had such unsatisifed customers......

I think your poll has about as much legitimacy as the 1919 World Series, Flybye
Here... I will fix it for you.........
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Re: Synthetic Oil?? Good or Bad for rotary motors??

Originally posted by RX7INSAC
Possible consequences of using synthetic oil on my newly rebuilt rotary motor??
break it in with regular oil for the first 1500 miles, then go to town with synth. Possible consequences? Cooler running motor and turbos, quicker spool up, smoother revving, better fuel mileage, less wear on your motor and turbo internals, the list goes on and on
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Old May 1, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Flybye, if you live in Miami and have never heard of a Pettit motor blowing up, you haven't been paying attention. I know several, two of which I have intimate knowledge of, one in Naples an one in Ft. Lauderdale. Most of the old time third gen guys will not use Pettit to build their engines.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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Flybye, if you live in Miami and have never heard of a Pettit motor blowing up, you haven't been paying attention. I know several, two of which I have intimate knowledge of, one in Naples an one in Ft. Lauderdale. Most of the old time third gen guys will not use Pettit to build their engines.
Well thanks, now I've heard of 2 Pettit motors blowing up

Like I've said, it's only what I've heard. I have no hardcore evidense to prove their engines are bulletproof, which noone's engines are bulletproof.

I don't think anyone here has a full listing of ALL the engines ever rebuilt from any 1 shop. I didn't start this thread to prove 1 shop is better than another. Word of mouth is one of the factors in determining who will lay their hands on the heart of your car, and I'm hoping these threads will help people make that choice. I'm not saying these threads are designed to ultimately tell you to choose X shop, but at least help you in making the right decision.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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this poll is statistically screwed up. it is not set up correctly and will only result in biased results. i would be willing to say most of the time it is the drivers fault for blowing the engine.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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flybye, I personally know of 3 people with blown motors from pettit...Thats what happens when you let someone learn how to build an engine with other peoples motors.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Just to let everybody know, my fd is in the shop awaiting a rebuild (blown water seal) and I'm not sure who to go with. I saw 2 2 rebuilds with port jobs from A!@#$'s rotary, and none of the port matched. 2 separate BAD jobs and I feel sorry for whoever's engines they were. I hope they get their money back. I'm very disappointed in the quality of their work and hope that they fire the guy responsible for the crackhead work they did. That being said, I need help in finding a trustworthy shop, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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I might just go with another mazda reman. My current reman lasted about 2 years without a problem(except for the oil pan issue). Are there any other problems that I should be aware of?
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Old May 16, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Reman, my fault! too many mods and no EMS
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Old May 18, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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I might just go with another mazda reman. My current reman lasted about 2 years without a problem
And that's good? 2 years?
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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How are TriPoint and XS Engineering when it comes to rebuilding?
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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try to find an renesis for now!!best buy!! less gaz and not a lot of modif if your already using an pre programmed ecu.. i'mthinkin of turbo charged mine!!....
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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On my MANA rebuild... The front main berring came apart...Um......
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