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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Nobody has mentioned the LS1 to this guy.....
opppsss...why do u wanna mention about LS1 conversion?

i don't want to see another flaming war on this thread.
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 02:23 AM
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Nobody has mentioned the LS1 to this guy.....
That's true, there are lots of used Camaros floating around the classifieds
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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Ok, now that I know all of that.....if you want to stay rotary, your only real choice is a single turbo 20b.
Yeah, I agree. If your single goal is to outdo a lighter car, a V8 or 20B with big boost is your only chance. But it will be a long time and a lot of work before he would get to the top of that upgrade mountain.

Or you could just wait for the Porsche's tail to suddenly break loose and wreck. (Did the 79s have that driving characteristic?)

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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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You'll be able to easily make 400 seq and possibly 425 seq. That is enough to trap 125 mph and run a high 10 with slicks and good driving. plenty fast enough.

Personally, I have built my FD for one person.....myself. Not to get laid, not to look cool for friends, not to race some retard in a viper. In my opinion those are very poor reasons to spend alot of time and money on a car.
well of course i would be building for myself.. i wouldnt do it for my mom or nothing...lol.. i would just like to shut richy rich up while im at it..

what engine mods could you do to help out other than a port...??? or could the motor itself handle a large amout of boost.. like 18 or 19psi??
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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well of course i would be building for myself.. i wouldnt do it for my mom or nothing...lol.. i would just like to shut richy rich up while im at it..

what engine mods could you do to help out other than a port...??? or could the motor itself handle a large amout of boost.. like 18 or 19psi??
Internally, stock is find for 400-450 rwhp. Stock mazda 2mm 2 piece oem seals, all oem internals. Just get a nice port and polish job on the intake ports and exhaust ports.
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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so a single turbo 20b??? what is the potential of this 3 rotor?? I'm sure we all know about that company that does the 4 rotor 23a right?? would it even be worth it to go with that 4 rotor instead of the 3?? personally I think the original 20b would be better
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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oh yea geesaman.... the rear-end in the porsche is fine, it's the front-end that we worry about
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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why do these threads always go to crap with some joker with no money talking pie-in-the-sky about a 3 (or 4) rotor engine swap?

no, you won't beat a Viper and you won't beat a 620 hp Porsche either...who gives a ****?

let's get back to reality
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why do these threads always go to crap with some joker with no money talking pie-in-the-sky about a 3 (or 4) rotor engine swap?

no, you won't beat a Viper and you won't beat a 620 hp Porsche either...who gives a ****?

let's get back to reality

why do these threads always go to crap with some joker talking like he knows everything.. talking about get back to reality this and that.. who are you to say that and fd could not keep up with if not beat a viper or a porshe.. .. i have proof of the porshe one.. ill post it..
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450 hp porshe.. being lighter than a viper and putting down about what a viper does to the wheels.. up against.. a rx7..

url=http://videos.streetfire.net/video/777B64F6-E970-4025-9F46-89FBC29A20A6.htm][/url]Click here to see Video
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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its possible to make 500 plus on s.ported motor on single.....bnr wont get u near there. u just need a good tuner and nice cash flow
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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You really need to go with a 4 rotor PP. You could get personalized plates that say "Troll"
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellowfd3s13btt
I'm sure we all know about that company that does the 4 rotor 23a right?? would it even be worth it to go with that 4 rotor instead of the 3?? personally I think the original 20b would be better
I think you'd be better off calling this company and asking them all the questions.

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Originally Posted by fc3sman
450 hp porshe.. being lighter than a viper and putting down about what a viper does to the wheels.. up against.. a rx7..

url=http://videos.streetfire.net/video/777B64F6-E970-4025-9F46-89FBC29A20A6.htm][/url]Click here to see Video
yet another lame vid from you

450 rwhp my ***...I'd be surprised if that car had more than 360 at the wheels

newer 911s aren't particularly light, either
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Improved FD
why do these threads always go to crap with some joker with no money talking pie-in-the-sky about a 3 (or 4) rotor engine swap?

no, you won't beat a Viper and you won't beat a 620 hp Porsche either...who gives a ****?

let's get back to reality
I think he's talking cash wise. These threads tend to be a lot like the "Import Spirit R" threads. Some of my friends do this. They live in a fantasy world and pick a car and do all sorts of research on it. They get on sites like this and talk like they'll actually do something. It never happens. Six months later a different dream ride. Process repeats. 3 rotor swaps are so expensive you might as well go with another car all together. I have no idea what a 4 rotor would be. I stay well grounded in reality with my 2 rotor.
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Originally Posted by Larz
I think he's talking cash wise. These threads tend to be a lot like the "Import Spirit R" threads. Some of my friends do this. They live in a fantasy world and pick a car and do all sorts of research on it. They get on sites like this and talk like they'll actually do something. It never happens. Six months later a different dream ride. Process repeats. 3 rotor swaps are so expensive you might as well go with another car all together. I have no idea what a 4 rotor would be. I stay well grounded in reality with my 2 rotor.
You are a very smart fellow, megaman.
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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yet another lame vid from you

450 rwhp my ***...I'd be surprised if that car had more than 360 at the wheels

newer 911s aren't particularly light, either

dude... from the video.. i would say that the porshe seen wouldnt be a new one.. and yet another lame vid..lol.. you really suck at life huh... any vid of a 7 pulling out in front of another car isnt lame in my books.. no matter what the hp is.. like i said... get a life and stay outta mine.. ok.. grow up.. please.!!
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and how is me talking about bnr turbos past reality.. ??? theres alot of people out there with more that that invested in there cars.. wether its a fd or not...

all im trying to do is find out information.. so that when it acutally comes time to do something ill have a plan to follow..

yeah i understand that alot of people say thing and dont do them.. but who are you to be the judge.. especially since you never even met me.. or more than half the others on the forums.. you never know.. soemt one could be talking trask to you online with a computer thats worth more than you car.. never know.

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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by fc3sman
and how is me talking about bnr turbos past reality.. ??? theres alot of people out there with more that that invested in there cars.. wether its a fd or not...

all im trying to do is find out information.. so that when it acutally comes time to do something ill have a plan to follow..

yeah i understand that alot of people say thing and dont do them.. but who are you to be the judge.. especially since you never even met me.. or more than half the others on the forums.. you never know.. soemt one could be talking trask to you online with a computer thats worth more than you car.. never know.
I was more reffering to the 3 rotor and 4 rotor parts of this thread. BNRs are in the realm of possibility for most.
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oh .. lol.. sorry.. lol.. i though when you said this thread.. i though you were talking about this thread in general.. sorry about that..
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Seriously, if you want power just go with a gt42r or a greddy T-88. I already mentioned earlier that my t-88 FD is a beast, and yes it beats Vipers.

A 13b if built properly can handle plenty of power, more then you could ever use. I find 455.2whp @ 17psi is already plenty, but with one of these big turbos you have the option of pushing the car to 600-700hp range.

Forget about the 3 and 4 rotor conversions, way too much money and you will never use the potential of the car. Yes they are nice, but realistically the 13b is all you need!
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Boy oh Boy, ******** talkin big boy **** like they know the real deal. I'm not about to argue nobody down about nothing. Just cause you don't have the money for a 3 or 4 rotor swap don't mean nobody else does. just deal with having the short end of the stick, bitch. but more about what WE were talking about. I think i'll do the 3-rotor single swap in a couple months....my engine only has 7,000 miles since the rebuild a s.port so i wanna drive it some more. i appreciate all of the input excpet that bs from the haters
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Originally Posted by Yellowfd3s13btt
Boy oh Boy, ******** talkin big boy **** like they know the real deal. I'm not about to argue nobody down about nothing. Just cause you don't have the money for a 3 or 4 rotor swap don't mean nobody else does. just deal with having the short end of the stick, bitch. but more about what WE were talking about. I think i'll do the 3-rotor single swap in a couple months....my engine only has 7,000 miles since the rebuild a s.port so i wanna drive it some more. i appreciate all of the input excpet that bs from the haters
You should be careful who you call 'bitch.' With that attitude you won't last long around here. I've helped you out a shitload in this thread.....are you calling me a bitch? It's tough to tell, you leave it pretty ambiguous.

A person may have all the money in the world, but without knowledge and experience a serious project like a 20B will be dead in the water.

I have a good friend going through the 20B thing, he is doing it to the hilt, the right way, high end shops, with all top end parts. Expect to spend at least $30,000 in addition to the price of the car, and expect it to take at least 1 year, probably closer to 2 years.
Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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If you want to stomp vipers there are far cheaper routes than a 3 rotor. I would take the money I saved and invest or start a business. Maybe then I could afford for someone else to wrench on my FD. I don't see anyone in their right mind shelling out wads of cash to beat a friend in a 7. I agree with Goodfella. Build it for you. Actually, do everything in your life for you. Why be a slave to other's wants? You have your own dreams to chase.
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