I agree w/ sikopathx. Big wings on slow cars = rice, but fast cars can actually benefit from a big wing. The only way to know for sure would be to look at the wing profile and mounting points, but from the faraway pic, there's a good chance that wing is helping keep the rear end planted at speed. The height and angle of attack are close but not ideal IMHO.

-s-

 

the first car that is on ebay needs a paint job, paint looks like crap

 

Actually, there's a good chance that the wing is doing more harm than good.

God only knows what effect that C-West nose has on the aerodynamics, and without knowing what you're doing, it's very easy to upset the balance from front to rear, especially when the front is contributing very little and you're horsing around with something that was stolen off a 747 in the rear...

 

C-west actualy has test data for their FD kit. the wing would just **** it up. rice wings like that dont even make downforce usualy, just tones of drag

 

Show me data on this.

 

Yes show me data too. No aftermarket company has the kind of money it takes to do wind tunnel testing so if they have any I would love to see it.

 

damn....30G's, only the rich brat could afford it!

how i wish i cna be that rich brat!

 

is that a supra i see on the back??

 

Heres a link for japan c west website....Has some data for the Fd kit.....if you look down the bottom right of the page there is a small movie...

http://www.c-west.co.jp/labs/fudo_rx7.html

 

I will see if I can find the Options magazine scan. I think Mugen is the only manufacturer that gets the benefit of a wind tunnel, but the C-West car they ran it stock around a track 3 times, averaged it, then added the entire cwest N1 body kit to the car, ran it 3 times and averaged it. IIRC there was a significant improvement in lap times - on the order of maybe 2 seconds. Plus almost every FD I see in competition photos from Japan is running the C-West kit.

edit - that link to the Cwest site has the recap of the tests..

 

Yeah thats a supra back there....rich motha F*****!
Im jealous...

 

lol.....well i'm not a fan of supra.

 

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hey mike whats up.......nothing as of yet i am waiting for nos (not much just 50 shot) then i`ll dyno ....just for the heck of it
feels insane so far though
how`s youre sick ride doing??? run any busa`s lately??

 

here ya go
click me

 

before you guys behead me ...the supra is my friend`s and i am building it ,should make around 1100+hp if everything goes as planned

 

In other words, they think they improved coefficient of drag, but they really have no idea how much downforce (or lift) their kit is generating front and rear at high speed. A couple second difference in lap times could simply be due to driver familiarity with the track, and there are far too many other variables which could affect results for that to be a valid indicator of the benefits of the kit.

Bottom line, you'd have to be an absolute fool to take a car with a C-West kit (or any body kit, for that matter) over ~140 mph without knowing what effects it had on aerodynamics at high speed.

 

There's no shortage of those....

 

how about :"it simply looks good"

 

You mean besides the stadium bleachers on the rear deck and the dead paint?

 

<Bottom line, you'd have to be an absolute fool to take a car with a C-West kit (or any body kit, for that matter) over ~140 mph without knowing what effects it had on aerodynamics at high speed.>


And the same can be said for stock bodied FD's. Mazda didn't do any windtunnel testing that i know of.( someone provide it if it is available please) And the one video i did see it went for a nice flight.( Partially due to aero)

And there are plenty of you out there that say you've gone over 160. Where is your data saying that is ( and i use the word lightly) "safe" to be doing?Aero wise.

Oh yeah that shopping cart needs to come off the back for sure. And at least make the whole car flat black to match! Geez! They must have blown their load on the enginebay.

 

What are you smoking? Mazda spent hundreds of hours in the wind tunnel....The coefficients of lift and drag (with and without the R-model spoilers) are well documented. In fact, that's when Mazda went to the double-bubble design for the roof -- as a result of their test findings.

 

please ,not his ,thats like a cheap honda wing
look at the back of my car thats a c-west wing ,
i dont know why that guy would put a cheap looking wing on that car

 

so did mazda do the same for the 99spec front and wing?? im told the aerodynamics of the 99 are better, but with that shoebox on the front im a bit skeptical

 

Yes, the 99+ bumper/wing were wind tested, but I've never seen drag coefficient. I've also not seen lift numbers for the front but have seen them for the adjustable wing.