AWWWW.. BOO HOO HOO! C ya later turd!! Maybe people will finally open their eyes to microtech LT8S w/ the plug and play adapter. Or maybe not! G

If you are going to go through the trouble of a Microtech, you might as well as do the right thing and buy a Haltech. :) There is no better plug and play ECU than the PFC period!

So are they going to be discontinued? or not? cause this will change my buying pattern.

I hate to say that I will be a sheep among the followers spurred by market changes or rumors.... But I am in this case.

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Yeah, maybe a touch screen blue tooth commander or an ipod style adapter to connect your your stereo and control it from there. If the chip manufacturer was the case then all would be discontinued, but so far it looks like it may be just older and/or low selling models. It would make more sense for a v2 replacement then completely discontinuing the entire line.

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Yeah right. Has the software update happened yet or are you still limited to a PATHETIC 16x16 load matrix?

The Microtech has built-in logging but can't run the OMP. So what does it have over the PFC+datalogit?

There is something no one brought up which may play a role in this which is ODBII. With my truck it went from replacement chips to plug in chip rewriters to the current allways plugged in piggy back controller connected to the ODBII port. If the ECU is replaced then i'm shure it would void the warranty as the dealer couldn't talk to the new ECU with the ODBII port.

Ver 2.0 maybe similar to SAFC NEO for the commander controller or possibly dash mounted.
http://www.apexi-usa.com/graphics/products/2601.jpg

The other drawback on the microtech is the inability to change the values of the rows. 8 vacuum, 8 boost that covers the range up to 28 psi. Who gives a shit about 28 psi since most of us will go up to about 17 max. With the PFC you can have how ever many pressure rows you want since you can change the values but even if you leave it at 10, 10 rows for 17 psi with the stock pressure sensor versus 8 rows for 28 psi with the microtech, which ones having to extrapolate inbetween data points, ie less resolution? The real turd with no support from the producers or the end users is the microtech for the FD.

Tim

Except that the stock ecu can't be re-written through the OBDI port ... That's right OBD >>1<<
The FD was prior to 1996 when OBDII was mandatory, and at best you get a flashing bulb out of OBDI since it was far less regulated... with the stock ecu you have to manually remove the chip and flash it, even so, try and teach it about a 0-5v signal from a GM 3Bar map sensor.... Good Luck !

-Derek

This whole "disconinuing" of PFCs sounds like a ploy for Ramy to generate some income :p:

What Trouble? You plug it in and go? The lt8s comes w/ a base map just the same as the base/mod of PFC? At least mine did. You choose your map sensor (2 or 3 bar). (Who the hell would not get the 3bar for later intentions I don't know.) It has a built in ignition booster. Also contrary to what people say. If you retain the stock harness (plug and play adapter) You still have an OMP. Oh yea.. You dont need injector resistor B.S. as well. People will see the light some day. Right Rey? AHAH!

I have been running my car for 3 years at 15 psi w/ the plug and play. I never add premix. FD Rey is making over 500. Same set-up. No premix. Wrong info there. :)

Must not have good support in you area? That is the main catch of any stand alone. Your support group. G

Someone has to stir the beehive every now and then! I have'nt done it in a while!!

Yep and you're still running a pathetic 16x16 matrix with fixed load points.

ZING! :balls:

Oh well... 1 minor discrepency.. Nobody is perfect. Doesnt affect the way ther cars run comparetively. I know. I have owned both. As everyone knows. Its all about the tune anyway. Not the box. I just like the less headaches. :us4allswi

would rather tune on something with more resolution. If i ever do another setup i will probably go with a haltech e8.

1 minor discrepancy? It's not the box? The Microtech has 16x16 vs 20x20, this is a whopping 36% less resolution. That's a pretty big difference, especially given the rather big steps between the load rows in the PFC already.

WHAT headaches with the PFC? It's easy to use and program (w/the datalogit). The only drivability issue is the A/C problem some have.

Drive my car and then drive yours. Let's see where the resolution makes a difference. It's a 2 rotor engine not a space shuttle launch. I explained the built in features it has that the PFC does not. I am not flaming anyone here. Just stating my experience. :) G

Uh, the resolution makes the difference in providing a good and SAFE tune between rpm and load points. Why don't you compare a computer monitor running 640x480 and 1024x768? See a difference? :D

What built-in features did you explain? The only thing I saw you post about was "ignition booster"....I'm not sure how good it is vs an HKS for example.

I'm not trying to flame you, but I've seen you bash the PFC on more than one occasion and you have yet to give a solid reason why. Also, I like to point out the cons of products that people say are the shit without giving any qualifiers....like 36% less resolution.

Microwreak is reagarded as a total fucking joke by anyone with a brain in its country of origin !

I would rather eat cock than put their TOTAL POS into a quality car like an FD ;)

And they are almost finished with the production run of their plug and play patch loom, and it runs the OMP :D And it's 32x32 for both fuel and ignition.

I like how all the big time members cam out on this thread. Check out page 3, only 1 guy has less than 1,000 posts. haha

By the way, maybe i miseed it, but when is the deadline for the GB again? Thanx!

Off track a bit here... Didn't nintendo have a OBII reader? Would be good if PSP came up with the same kind of thing.

Maybe you guys in Japan have OBDII on your '96+ FD's, but us poor sould here in the us were deprived of that....