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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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A power FC with Commander is great, it will give you instant readouts on AITs, Water temp, Vac/Boost in Bars, knock(completely inaccurate), speed in KM/H, and some others all with peak hold ability, but it will not give you A/R readouts.

As handy as the commander is, it's extremely cumbersome to read while driving. Gauges really are irreplaceable for on the fly readings. None of the gauges in my car work right now--stock or aftermarket-- so my commander has been invaluable until I get the electrical issues resolved, however it is a big PITA to read while driving. I mostly use it to periodically check my water temps and to check my peaks every now and then to make sure I'm not overboosting or check the high water temp.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by notveryhappyjack
I don't agree at all. You rank an engine overheating above popping an apex seal from running lean. I don't know how you would ever overheat one of these engines without hitting boost multiple times. If your air fuel ratios are lean you would never see the time needed to do wot pulls to overheat the motor, what came first the chicken or the egg ?

Basically they are all important. I have my car tuned but the wideband doesn't always read the same and it is nice to know when your near the danger zone. When my engine is cold it reads different, when the air intake temp is cold it reads different, same with when its hot. Its constantly changing, some days under boost it reads 9.x and then the next day it will read 11.x under boost. Its tuned that way but it is still nice to see this every time I drive and it re assures myself to go wot.
I am not really ranking anything but if you have the proper modifications and a good tune I don't see the need for the A/F gauge kit. Water temp will increase much much slower then the a/f mixture! I agree the a/f will be different at hot and cold, tuning is done at normal operating temp. You should never push boost on a motor that is not at normal operating temp due to the risk of running lean. Outside temp can also play a role, colder air is more dense therefor making the a/f leaner then a warmer day. No tuner would want to push the limits of the a/f ratio and then have theyre customer doing the same stuff on a cold winter day and popping the motor, then they could get a bad name. I do agree it is nice to have, but it is not needed as long as your car is properly setup and tuned.

How would you know if your going to run lean, till your in boost and you should be keeping your eye's on the road. Boost comes on very fast in these cars! Water takes time to get hot where as a/f mixture changes very quickly.

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