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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Apexi Power Fc Dilemma

I want to purchase an Apexi Power FC

From a Japan based site i am looking at the Power FC and commander is $680 with base map

But from another website it is the standard price of $900 but in the notes you tell them your modifications and they will tune it for you.

Is the tuning worth the $300 or is it easy enough to do myself? What does it take to tune it for the different mods?
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Tuning yourself is far from easy. However the PFC comes pretuned to some degree for basic bolt ons.

I am running an untuned PFC at 12 psi with intake/y-pipe/SMIC/downpipe/high flow cat/exhaust and am getting 10.5 AFRs and lower at high boost/rpm so still have a significant safety margin.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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No, not worth it. I'd get, learn about it, ask questions, then start to tune in very small imcrements. Keep it rich, don't add timing, just take it away if your knock is high in those cells. Also watch what your knock number is, some cars tend to have high numbers while others don't.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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well i have:
Apexi GT exhaust
HKS SSQV BOV
Greddy 3 piece intercooler piping
HKS Downpipe
M2 Intake
and MSD 6a Ignition/ 2 MSD HVC2 coils

so in my case the tuning would be worth the money rather then get it cheap?

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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No since all they will do is add fuel and take out timing. You can do that and not cost you 300 bucks.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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mail order tuning.... just think about that for a minute. They are not looking at your A/F ratio, injector duty cycle, fuel pump nothing. They are assuming.

Get the cheaper PFC and then use the extra $$ to then pay a professional to tune it for you on a dyno or on the road. That yields the best results.

if mail order tuning was actually a good way to go, none of us would ever pay the extra cash to dyno/road tune.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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I know they sell a map pack for the Power FC but is it worth it?
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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What is the average cost to get the computer tuned by a professional
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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It varies. It all depends on the tuner. Go to the regional forums and ask there about reputable tuning shops.

See you are asking the wrong questions. A better question is "what is the average cost of having your PFC tuned by mail order maps" I would care to answer that the average price is an engine and maybe turbos.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Dude, dont blow up your car. Go to one of the many local tunners. Prices vary bepending on how much time it takes to tune the car.

I have four quick options for you

1) PFS, Ray can tune you PFC hes not that far and has a dyno
2) KDR in PA, Dave is a good tunner and has a dyno
3) PBC in Chantilly, they dont have a dyno but they have some good techs
4) Demetrious when not busy , does a great job tunning. But no dyno at his house

Cost ? all these guys are close , I had three of them tune my FD at diffrent times over the years, all did good work. From $100- $250 is about right
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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1) PFS, Ray can tune you PFC hes not that far and has a dyno

what is the name of the shop he is located in and is there a number i can call?
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousKracka
1) PFS, Ray can tune you PFC hes not that far and has a dyno

what is the name of the shop he is located in and is there a number i can call?
http://www.pfsupercars.com/
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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thanks alot
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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No problem, anything to keep someone else from going threw the hell I did two cores ago.

Good luck and enjoy the ride home after the tune !
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