Is anyone else still running original bushings and pillow balls......
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Originally Posted by coneklr
What suspension does everyone have? Touring, R1, after market?
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I have 155k miles on the chassis and the only bushings Ive replaced were the diff ones. No creaks or clunks and although i did inspect them very breifly, most of them look to be just fine.
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Originally Posted by coneklr
Suspension Mr3plus1?? Perhaps a harder suspension is the culprit for destroying pillow *****.
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I only get a minor clunk on take off, and only sometimes. I think if I baby the throttle I tend to get it more than if I am driving normally. (ie, it happens when putting around in a parking lot)
It does not clunk at any other time. Maybe motor mounts?
53k chassis miles.
It does not clunk at any other time. Maybe motor mounts?
53k chassis miles.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
R1 until early 2002, then Tanabe sustec Pro S/S coilovers, which I absolutely LOVE by the way. I had the first set into the country installed on my FD as a test fit and they've been 100% perfect for the last 5 years----on the street, strip and track.
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Originally Posted by neofreak
I only get a minor clunk on take off, and only sometimes. I think if I baby the throttle I tend to get it more than if I am driving normally. (ie, it happens when putting around in a parking lot)
It does not clunk at any other time. Maybe motor mounts?
53k chassis miles.
It does not clunk at any other time. Maybe motor mounts?
53k chassis miles.
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Remember that even a "to-spec" driveline has some slop built in. With all the gears, splines, etc., it's impossible to have an absolutely tight (no play) driveline. Maybe you're just hearing that looseness, and nothing is wrong.
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Originally Posted by neofreak
My previous FD had no such problem. It's actually quite pronounced when it does happen. It's obvious that something is wrong, unfortunately. It is a minor problem though, since I know how to avoid it by changing my driving style. If I can figure out what the problem is I don't mind fixing it, but I don't want to just go and replace tons of bushings/mounts blindly when the car has only ~50k miles.
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Originally Posted by DaveW
OK - where is the clunk? Rear? If so, it shouldn't be engine mounts. If it happens only on startup and slow piddling around parking lots, I'd guess either toe-link or trailing-arm pillow *****. IMO, those are most likely to allow rotational (as either viewed from the side or the top) motion of the rear upright under those condititons.
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Thanks for the tip.
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The trailing-arm pillow ball is in the lower transverse a-arm, and doesn't actually allow the upright to, literally, rotate, but, if loose, allows the transverse lower a-arm and the bottom of the upright to have some fore-aft slop. It's the same effect, and this is only semantics, but I thought I ought clarify. (Too bad we can't edit posts after 1/2 hour...)
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Update, mine died at approx 115k while dueling with the Tail of the Dragon at Deal's Gap Rotary Rally 2007
Full Superpro bushing set being pressed into a spare set of arms I picked up along with some nice shiny OEM pillow *****
Full Superpro bushing set being pressed into a spare set of arms I picked up along with some nice shiny OEM pillow *****
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Can anyone comment on the difference they felt after changing their bushings?
Whether you felt the car needed the bushings replaced or not, and what was you feeling on the matter both before and after the change?
Mileage on car?
Which bushings did you find to have incurred the most wear to least wear?
Which bushing brand did you end up going with? Superpro,powerflex,mazda comp,stock replacment, or other? And why did you choose the bushing you did?
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Whether you felt the car needed the bushings replaced or not, and what was you feeling on the matter both before and after the change?
Mileage on car?
Which bushings did you find to have incurred the most wear to least wear?
Which bushing brand did you end up going with? Superpro,powerflex,mazda comp,stock replacment, or other? And why did you choose the bushing you did?
TIA
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doing the pillow ***** took the car from normal clunky, to smooth and quiet, its definitely one of those things where you go "why did it wait do long!?" when its done.
its actually easy to do, and its not even expensive....
its actually easy to do, and its not even expensive....
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my fd has 115k on the clock and i recently did the rear pillow ***** on the car and replaced the toelinks and trailing arms. the whole rear end feels much more stable and solid now, car doesn't creak over bumps or bounce around. very well worth it.
my rear end use to feel like it was wandering, it feels rock solid now.
my rear end use to feel like it was wandering, it feels rock solid now.
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I have 133k now, replaced all the pillowballs and bushings in the rear around 125k.
I have zeal b2s, car is lowered, springs rated at 9kg/11kg and on softest settings.
Bay area roads are extremely rough with cracks and pot holes everywhere.
Prior to replacing, car had significant "clunking" and "shifting", in parking lots, around corners too. I remember one time exiting a fwy, making a left hand turn, about 35 mph, and suddenly the rear end "clunked" and "shifted" and slide out, then grabbed again. It was freggin nutz, I literally thought something "big" had fallen off the car. And I've heard even worse stories due to bad pillow *****.
Inspecting the pillow ***** shows ALL of them were bad with substantial play in them, and some were barely holding together.
After replacing (all OEM), it was a HUGE difference, almost like a new car again in terms of handling, much more planted, secure, stable, etc, mostly around corners, but at low speeds too. Now clunking sounds are just the hatch making noise or the zeal shock bushings that need lube.
Now I think I want to do everything in the front. I dont feel clunking or shifting, but I wonder what the difference would be anyway, especially since the rear was such a dramatic difference, obviously since they were in such bad shape.
I have zeal b2s, car is lowered, springs rated at 9kg/11kg and on softest settings.
Bay area roads are extremely rough with cracks and pot holes everywhere.
Prior to replacing, car had significant "clunking" and "shifting", in parking lots, around corners too. I remember one time exiting a fwy, making a left hand turn, about 35 mph, and suddenly the rear end "clunked" and "shifted" and slide out, then grabbed again. It was freggin nutz, I literally thought something "big" had fallen off the car. And I've heard even worse stories due to bad pillow *****.
Inspecting the pillow ***** shows ALL of them were bad with substantial play in them, and some were barely holding together.
After replacing (all OEM), it was a HUGE difference, almost like a new car again in terms of handling, much more planted, secure, stable, etc, mostly around corners, but at low speeds too. Now clunking sounds are just the hatch making noise or the zeal shock bushings that need lube.
Now I think I want to do everything in the front. I dont feel clunking or shifting, but I wonder what the difference would be anyway, especially since the rear was such a dramatic difference, obviously since they were in such bad shape.
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