Many supercars run BC too. But personally I wouldn't want Bor-Chuann wheels on my supercar if I can afford one (which I can't).

 

Mine is a track day car. I want wheels that have been proven on track. If there was enough documented track experience with BC, I'd maybe consider it. At their prices, though, I'd rather wait for the wheels I want.

 

ok, certainly understand

I went cold turkey to quit the jdm kool-aid and street cred habits a few decades ago though, so 90’s … 🤣

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Damn you beat me to it! I quit all that nonsense when I graduated high school. I’m having a hard time not laughing because someone actually used street cred in a sentence.

A good set of wheels is a good set of wheels, I don’t really care where they’re made. Japanese wheel companies are outsourcing to Taiwan, U.S. wheel companies are outsourcing to China,…do people really care anymore?

 

I couldn't agree more that a fine set of wheels will have characteristics that will speak for themselves but I, personally do still care where they are manufactured.

In an ideal world, Japanese get Japanese, American get American, German get German, etc. I think we can all agree fairly easily on that and is not a particularly hard concept to grasp. I'm led to believe that the main issue is in how we perceive an item's 'worth' vs the 'actual value' in relation to our efforts. I've touched on the topic of inequality in consumer perceptions for years. New car vehicle depreciation values thoroughly support this theory imo.

Value
the usefulness or desirability of good or service, how much you love it, or what it is “worth to me.” Value is not a number, but often we can compare the values of two things, especially if they are similar in use. Intuitively we see value as being intrinsic and stable over time, but analysis shows it must be somewhat dependent on individual preferences and social context. This stability of value stands in contrast to the fluctuations of market prices, and even when the price is stable, it may seem out of line with our perception of the value.

Cost (price)
The amount of money required to purchase something (a good or a service.) Cost is from the purchaser's viewpoint, so it can have a negative connotation (ie: cost is bad).

Worth
An expected selling price of some form of property, an appraisal. When we talk about worth, we are taking the viewpoint of the owner, and speculating about a possible sale, or what it might cost to replace our property. Worth is a long-term perspective. As with value, we think of worth as being stable across market price fluctuations, and so as somewhat intrinsic in the thing. We tend to imagine an ideal buyer, one who values the property as least as much as we do. If sale prices refuse to align with our expectation, we may have to adjust our idea of worth, but we can do this without having to change our judgment of value, what it is “worth to me”


Price and worth are similar, but a true price only exists when we are actually selling, whereas we can speculate about worth at any time. Also, if we actually do sell, and prices are negotiable, we will set our price higher than what we think it is worth. Last time I checked, this was all reasonable information.

Now let's apply some of this reasoning to practically anything on the used market right now. Used car current valuations aren't based in reality and doesn't jive with my pocketbook. Unless we're talking about true collectors' level vehicles that are 100% original, have been garaged their entire life, never driven in rain, exceptionally low mileage, 1 owner, etc. Then and only then can you start to ask above MSRP imo. I don't view 'cars as investments' unless you have an MC12 or something of the like. Imo, BaT and the other auction type sites are for people with more money than common sense.

ps- I do understand that some people can't afford 'premium' items but that's a separate convo imo.

 

You sir have opened up an entirely different can of worms. And while I'll agree with you, I'll leave all of that alone and stick to the topic, specifically wheels and where they're manufactured.

I do have a "wheel standard" if you can call it that. There are only specific wheels from specific companies that I look for when I'm shopping, with most (or all) of them being Japanese. The point I was trying to make is I don't believe all of, lets say Volks, wheels are manufactured in Japan anymore, yet I don't believe the standard of their wheel making process of years past has been lost. It doesn't bother me that they may have wheels made in, for example Taiwan, because the reality is the market is changing along with the economics and by outsourcing, they can keep the price of wheels reasonable.

 

Did you ever purchase a wheel set and do you still feel the same about production and outsourcing?

Trying to find a decent aftermarket wheel right now is insane. Inventory is near non-existent. After looking what felt like forever, I recently picked up the new oem forged BBS for my wife's Mazda3 fastback. They're very nice imo and of course, are made in Japan. Tires are Federal 595RS-pro (exceptions can be made for rubber, ha ).

https://www.mazda-parts.com/oem-part...lack-b0j9v3810

 

Have you hit up Rishie?

Auto RnD: Northern California's #1 Custom Suspension and Wheel Dealer

(sorry if someone's mentioned him. I only kinda scanned this thread for his name)

 

I wound up going with Fikse wheels, and ordered them last December. Arrived just before DGRR in early Aprl, and I didn't have time to order tires. Still do not have tires yet, as it isn't track season. Anyway, Goodfella got me a great deal, so hit him up if you're not interested in waiting for Advans and you find something in Fikse's catalog you like.

 

The sit above looks like it's for children imo (not unlike fitment, etc) and I refuse to support places like that. Too much junk listed for my taste. Lots of people are def cheap these days though.

And every Fikse I've come across is heavy AF and for the money you could custom order a much lighter set.

 

If you're talking about the link I posted, Rishie / AutoRnD / ARDT2 has been a forum vendor here for years if not decades and has among the best rep of any seller on this site.
I personally have spent thousands with him since the early 00's. No affiliation, just a repeat happy customer of a knowledgeable, honest guy with some sick cars and connections to some rare JDM goodies.
If you're from Cali and have been to Mazfest or Sevenstock, you should recognize AutoRnD. They've been supporting the local Mazda scene since before I bought my new Protege5 in 2001.

 

I ordered the contour 305s, and they are very light. Forged wheels, at the price Goodfella is selling them, is a rather good deal. They are also fully customizable, so there's that, too. Get the exact offset you want. With Advans and similar wheels, you get narrow size and offset combinations. I paid around the same price for full custom wheels, and the lead time was not as bad as Fitment and other online retailers.

 

All Volk Racing and all Rays wheels are 100% made in Japan.