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FDNewbie 06-11-06 08:10 PM

99spec 4-channel ABS?
 
Anyone know anything about it? Advantage of a 4-channel (vs. our 3-channel) unit? Anyone switch over (which I'm guessing would require the pump, lines, and computer)?

~Ramy

DaiOni 06-11-06 09:09 PM

I priced out some of the hardware for a customer - very, very expensive. Almost never comes up on yahoo either.

FDNewbie 06-11-06 09:14 PM

Yea I've found the ABS pump/unit a few times, but no ECU or lines. Wanna know if it's worthwhile or not...

FD3S2005 06-11-06 09:41 PM

umm what i dont understand whats 3 channel n 4 abs? i know abs is for the wheels

xthephilx 06-11-06 10:47 PM

4 channel abs has a separate channel for each rear wheel. Currently, the ABS system can only respond to rear wheel lockup under braking by modulating pressure to both rear wheels in unison. With a 4 channel system, it can control each rear wheel independantly, allowing the wheel with traction to maintain braking system pressure and slow the car better.

In other words, 4 channel is better than 3.

wanklin 06-12-06 12:07 AM

In order to take advantage of this you would need dedicated feed line to each rear caliper correct? I don't see how this is useful if you are using a T'd brake feed.

xthephilx 06-12-06 12:28 AM

Yes, you'd have to have two lines to the back.

In order to do this, I presume you'd need a new pump (one with 4 outputs), a new abs ecu, and probably a new harness too.

I don't think the gain is enough to justify the cost and pain in the ass to swap over to the 4 channel system.

speed7 06-12-06 04:32 AM

Also the 99spec upgraded ABS is faster and behaves better then the stock ABS. Personally I used to keep mine off as it would kick in under hard braking for a turn. Which was very very bad. I've yet to play with the upgraded version but if you can get your hands on one give it a shot. It may be nice to have.

wanklin 06-12-06 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by xthephilx
Yes, you'd have to have two lines to the back.

In order to do this, I presume you'd need a new pump (one with 4 outputs), a new abs ecu, and probably a new harness too.

I don't think the gain is enough to justify the cost and pain in the ass to swap over to the 4 channel system.

You would need to purchase a whole 4-channel pullout. Anyone have a guestimate as to the market value of a slightly used 4chnl abs system?

mute 06-12-06 04:22 PM

so this means if i have 99 fd i have 4 channel abs thing

FDNewbie 06-12-06 07:43 PM

Yes. Look on your ABS unit. If there are four lines on it (vs. the pre-99 ones that only have 3 lines coming off of it) then yours is a 4-channel unit ;)

~Ramy

DaiOni 06-12-06 07:55 PM

ABS and braking hardware is different in 98-00 (version V) and different again in 00-02 (version VI). The last version is (obviously) the best - 16bit ecu and electronic brake distribution.

wanklin 06-18-06 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by DaiOni
ABS and braking hardware is different in 98-00 (version V) and different again in 00-02 (version VI). The last version is (obviously) the best - 16bit ecu and electronic brake distribution.

Any guesses on pricing?

canadaisintexas 06-18-06 11:28 PM

PM Jimlab, iirc he has the 4 channel in his car

DaiOni 06-19-06 02:50 AM

the pump alone was about US$800 (I'll dig out the exact price if your really interested, PM me). I haven't priced the rest of it because I simply don't know exactly what bits and pieces are required to get it all up and running.

FLA94FD 06-19-06 09:56 AM

Couldn't you just pull one off of another make say a vette which are plentiful?

FDNewbie 06-19-06 09:26 PM

DaiOni, would you mind getting the prices on the lines and the computer? Cuz the pumps do pop up used every now and then... it's the other parts that I can't find.

canadaisintexas, would ya mind askin Jimlab about it? Him and I aren't exactly on speaking terms, so he wouldn't reply if I asked him ;)

Thanks
~Ramy

DaiOni 06-19-06 10:04 PM

if you can identify all the bits needed (inc numbers) - I'll do the pricing.

FDNewbie 06-19-06 10:09 PM

:rofl: If you can provide a 99spec+ full parts catalogue, I'll provide the part numbers :p:

DaiOni 06-19-06 10:22 PM

put it this way, identify what you can from 13bpower, and I'll see what I can do about the rest.

FDNewbie 06-19-06 10:25 PM

LOL. God.... one of these days I'm gonna manage to get ahold of that catalogue. You'll see ;)

turb0x2 06-19-06 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
LOL. God.... one of these days I'm gonna manage to get ahold of that catalogue. You'll see ;)


its not worth the time/$$$... spend it elsewhere my friend :)

FDNewbie 06-19-06 10:36 PM

To each his own ;)

quicksilver_rx7 06-19-06 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by FDNewbie
LOL. God.... one of these days I'm gonna manage to get ahold of that catalogue. You'll see ;)

Why do you think I haven't bought another RX-7 yet. I wish you would hurry the hell up! :fawk:

FDNewbie 06-19-06 10:43 PM

:rofl: I'm workin on it... EVERYTHING'S possible. It's only a matter of time & patience...


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