'93 R-1 15k original miles
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Thats a pretty good find there... I dont think that car would be let go for no less then $23K... But really depends on how much a buyer wants the car... Cause if someone wants it bad enough they would probably pay high 20's for it...
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Alot of people have a more negative about a car thats as old as the rx7's are, with low miles like the one in your example. I dont know a ton about the cars, but i have heard people saying that since it has lower miles its probabily been run less (duh) unless they cranked it and let it run. But when it sits bad stuff happens to the internals of the motor. Just what ive been reading..
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That's exactly right. You can have garage queens with 15K miles not be as good a buy as a daily driver with 60K miles that's been well taken care of.
15K miles is really really low for 10 years. I mean, that car has just sat for months and months at a time probably. Unless the owner was really **** about taking it out once a week (which alot say they do, but who knows).
15K miles is really really low for 10 years. I mean, that car has just sat for months and months at a time probably. Unless the owner was really **** about taking it out once a week (which alot say they do, but who knows).
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Originally posted by gohorns
I would rather buy one with 60K+ miles and a new motor than one that has sitting.
I would rather buy one with 60K+ miles and a new motor than one that has sitting.
I love that smilie... Anyway, don't purchase any FD without getting a compression test done no matter how few/many miles are on the engine. Engines can have problems at any mileage.
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Originally posted by gohorns
I would rather buy one with 60K+ miles and a new motor than one that has sitting. Just my .02
I would rather buy one with 60K+ miles and a new motor than one that has sitting. Just my .02
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
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Originally posted by johnchabin
Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
I don't know where this notion of "less miles = bad" thing came from.... and I would like someone to produce difinitive proof that a rotary engine that has been babied or has sat for a decent period of time is any worse off than one that is driven daily or near daily. That's just a load of crap.
maybe if it sat for year or two, it'd be different, but what if it was just garaged during the winter and not driven much during the summer? Hell, between August of last year and August of this year, my car only ticked off 2000 miles - I drive it about every other weekend. If it had been like that since it was new it would have less than 20K on the clock and I would say that it was in MUCH better shape than a car with 60K+.
edit: and to answer the original question, I'd say around $18-22K depending on a lot of things - which dash it has (the peely, painted one or the non-painted), if the recalls were done, if the service records are around, if it's been in an accident, etc.
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Ive heard the same thing too about Rx7s in general sitting too long. Things start to get stiff and I think I heard something about the seals and housings not liking extended times of idle time of no use like that. Just what I have heard, but yeh I would have it checked of course. But what do I know.... ?
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Originally posted by johnchabin
Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
To each their own, but I wouldn't trust it. Who knows what happens with those springs if the car has been sitting for months/years and then you take the car and tear up the streets....
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I have 2 FD's one I bought for 14,700 with 14990 miles. This car was like new inside and out..very well taken care of. but only driven locally 10-20 miles a drive every other week or so. the driver didn't want to take it out often because he thought it would have more resale value...Ha...I got it dirt cheap and now it has 17000 miles and still every bit a "like-new car" even smells new inside. It was bone stock and still is...
My second one I bought for 13K and it has 43K miles. It was also stock but had turbo trouble...Y pipe to crosssover pipe had a tear ...Well It was running great after 5$ in a new coupler. This car is not stock any more and is a hoot to drive but it is still very nice ( and quiet) to get in the stock piece from time to time...
But low miles don't always mean great condition...There was a car with 4K miles on it going for around 30 K... The owner did not say they were all autocross miles.........
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My second one I bought for 13K and it has 43K miles. It was also stock but had turbo trouble...Y pipe to crosssover pipe had a tear ...Well It was running great after 5$ in a new coupler. This car is not stock any more and is a hoot to drive but it is still very nice ( and quiet) to get in the stock piece from time to time...
But low miles don't always mean great condition...There was a car with 4K miles on it going for around 30 K... The owner did not say they were all autocross miles.........
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Originally posted by johnchabin
Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Even if the engine somehow suffered from sitting (and I don't believe this either), I'll buy the 15K. I'm assuming it's as pristine as a 15K car should be, and not owned by a pig.
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I got a '95 w/ 8k miles. and it's as strong as a moose. it all depends on how often the car have been started and some tcl. i am not afraid to race it either.
i know that the car will bring close to 25k.
i know that the car will bring close to 25k.
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Originally posted by gohorns
Another reason is that the 15K miles on the car are definitely not easy miles compared to a car that has been daily driven. Every car and owner is different and there are too many variables to generalize but my experience when I was FD shopping was that the lower mileage car clunked more.
Another reason is that the 15K miles on the car are definitely not easy miles compared to a car that has been daily driven. Every car and owner is different and there are too many variables to generalize but my experience when I was FD shopping was that the lower mileage car clunked more.
... still haven't seen proof that low miles = bad... I *might* believe that the seal springs could have a problem if they aren't flexed, but c'mon, we're talking several dormant months in a row - I bet that Mazda had a little bit of forsight of the fact that people store their cars for the winter & wouldn't have used shitty enough materials that would turn brittle if not exersized.
let's recap - I put around 2,000 miles on my car in one year (actually slightly less). Most of those miles were "easy miles" - I've never raced it, never abused it, always changed the oil & coolant when needed. I wind out the engine on occasion to blow some carbon out the back & it gives me an excuse to go fast. This is a prime example of a car that could have less than 20K on it - it hasn't been sitting for months and it's in great shape.
Think about this - a car that's not driven every day has also not gone through nearly as much heat cycling as an every day car (heat cycling is arguably more detrimental to rubber & plastic than sitting).
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Assuming that the 15k miles were not put on under "extraordinary conditions", i.e. that the car was just not driven a lot, I'd definitely prefer lower miles.
So what if there might be a small chance of motor damage (which I very much doubt)? Motors can be rebuilt to better than new conditions. Parts can be replaced.
But just try getting factory-original paint and body condition back on a high mileage car. That's a lot lot harder.
So what if there might be a small chance of motor damage (which I very much doubt)? Motors can be rebuilt to better than new conditions. Parts can be replaced.
But just try getting factory-original paint and body condition back on a high mileage car. That's a lot lot harder.
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I just picked it up tonight and it is TIGHT! In extroidinary condition. A 53 yr old man who drove it to the grocery store once aweek owned it. Low mile sittting damage is a bundh of crap.
Proof...put a 15k mile car beside a 75k mile car and ask anyone to pick either. Which one would they pick?...
Even a retarded person would take the pristine low mileage one!
Just my 2cents worth. Rob.
Proof...put a 15k mile car beside a 75k mile car and ask anyone to pick either. Which one would they pick?...
Even a retarded person would take the pristine low mileage one!
Just my 2cents worth. Rob.
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Originally posted by rx7r3
I just picked it up tonight and it is TIGHT! In extroidinary condition. A 53 yr old man who drove it to the grocery store once aweek owned it. Low mile sittting damage is a bundh of crap.
Proof...put a 15k mile car beside a 75k mile car and ask anyone to pick either. Which one would they pick?...
Even a retarded person would take the pristine low mileage one!
Just my 2cents worth. Rob.
I just picked it up tonight and it is TIGHT! In extroidinary condition. A 53 yr old man who drove it to the grocery store once aweek owned it. Low mile sittting damage is a bundh of crap.
Proof...put a 15k mile car beside a 75k mile car and ask anyone to pick either. Which one would they pick?...
Even a retarded person would take the pristine low mileage one!
Just my 2cents worth. Rob.
Now tell us how much you paid!