2nd gen turbo into a 3rd gen
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2nd gen turbo into a 3rd gen
I know it doesn't make any sence. I wouldn't do it, so don't flammed me for this, I'm just wondering. Would a 2nd gen turbo fit in a 3rd gen and run? and what size it that little thing?
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04-10-04, 09:53 PM
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Actually it'll work(should at least as the manifold flange is the same and I think FC's have tighter engine bays) as far as bolting up, probably still need a stand alone to run it though. A TII manifold probably sucks as far as far as performance but some of those hybrid upgrades aren't bad. Don't think anyone here has done it though, so be the guinea pig..
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i don't see why it's that bad of an idea.........
you could just pop the keg in and you can get instant lower compression ratios for the boost crazy ppl. Just run a stand alone. Lot cheaper cores/parts too. I don't think the kegs are that different. Biggest is the front cover which is prolly swapable like the s4-s5.
You could run the stock ecu but that wouldnt' be too effective. If you ran a late s5 series with the higher compression prolly couldn't even tell. I dont' think that far off.
i'm try'n to remmeber if the motor mounts are in the same spot. I don't think they are. I look at them every week and i can't even remember :0
you could just pop the keg in and you can get instant lower compression ratios for the boost crazy ppl. Just run a stand alone. Lot cheaper cores/parts too. I don't think the kegs are that different. Biggest is the front cover which is prolly swapable like the s4-s5.
You could run the stock ecu but that wouldnt' be too effective. If you ran a late s5 series with the higher compression prolly couldn't even tell. I dont' think that far off.
i'm try'n to remmeber if the motor mounts are in the same spot. I don't think they are. I look at them every week and i can't even remember :0
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04-11-04, 03:18 AM
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I think the guy's talking about JUST the turbo and manifold, not the entire block.
I actually considered this myself, and still am. I have a t04B hybrid 2gen turbo I am not using right now...
For those of us with non-functional stock twins, or who don't want to pay 100 bucks per broken solenoid to repair the stock control system, a single turbo is the obvious answer. But for those who don't have 6 grand to spend on turbo setup, IC, fuel and computer, a single stocker might be a decent way to go.
I don't see any immediate reason why it wouldn't fit...it'd certainly clear the intake manifold, but the frame, I'm not sure. OIl and coolant lines are basically already present, just adapt what you already have, and block off the rear oil drain to the block. OF course your inlet and outlet piping would have to be modified.
The 2gen turbos have a 6psi spring stock in the wastegate, so use a boost controller to get your stock 10-11 back, and you'd have roughly the same power level, just a little bit of lag to deal with. BUt, if your turbos didn't work consistently before, I don't see any reason to look at this as a shitty mod. Why spend hundreds repairing the stock system or thousands on a mild single setup when you could do this for well under $300?
I actually considered this myself, and still am. I have a t04B hybrid 2gen turbo I am not using right now...
For those of us with non-functional stock twins, or who don't want to pay 100 bucks per broken solenoid to repair the stock control system, a single turbo is the obvious answer. But for those who don't have 6 grand to spend on turbo setup, IC, fuel and computer, a single stocker might be a decent way to go.
I don't see any immediate reason why it wouldn't fit...it'd certainly clear the intake manifold, but the frame, I'm not sure. OIl and coolant lines are basically already present, just adapt what you already have, and block off the rear oil drain to the block. OF course your inlet and outlet piping would have to be modified.
The 2gen turbos have a 6psi spring stock in the wastegate, so use a boost controller to get your stock 10-11 back, and you'd have roughly the same power level, just a little bit of lag to deal with. BUt, if your turbos didn't work consistently before, I don't see any reason to look at this as a shitty mod. Why spend hundreds repairing the stock system or thousands on a mild single setup when you could do this for well under $300?
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Originally posted by RotaryResurrection
I actually considered this myself, and still am. I have a t04B hybrid 2gen turbo I am not using right now...
For those of us with non-functional stock twins, or who don't want to pay 100 bucks per broken solenoid to repair the stock control system, a single turbo is the obvious answer. But for those who don't have 6 grand to spend on turbo setup, IC, fuel and computer, a single stocker might be a decent way to go.
The 2gen turbos have a 6psi spring stock in the wastegate, so use a boost controller to get your stock 10-11 back, and you'd have roughly the same power level, just a little bit of lag to deal with. BUt, if your turbos didn't work consistently before, I don't see any reason to look at this as a shitty mod. Why spend hundreds repairing the stock system or thousands on a mild single setup when you could do this for well under $300?
I actually considered this myself, and still am. I have a t04B hybrid 2gen turbo I am not using right now...
For those of us with non-functional stock twins, or who don't want to pay 100 bucks per broken solenoid to repair the stock control system, a single turbo is the obvious answer. But for those who don't have 6 grand to spend on turbo setup, IC, fuel and computer, a single stocker might be a decent way to go.
The 2gen turbos have a 6psi spring stock in the wastegate, so use a boost controller to get your stock 10-11 back, and you'd have roughly the same power level, just a little bit of lag to deal with. BUt, if your turbos didn't work consistently before, I don't see any reason to look at this as a shitty mod. Why spend hundreds repairing the stock system or thousands on a mild single setup when you could do this for well under $300?
The reason I was thinking about this is because, turbo upgrades for 2nd gen are a lot cheaper. The only thing I don't see those turbo working is the A/R of the turbo. Just wondering what was the difference on the upgrading part.
04-11-04, 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by RotaryResurrection
I think the guy's talking about JUST the turbo and manifold, not the entire block.
I actually considered this myself, and still am. I have a t04B hybrid 2gen turbo I am not using right now...
For those of us with non-functional stock twins, or who don't want to pay 100 bucks per broken solenoid to repair the stock control system, a single turbo is the obvious answer. But for those who don't have 6 grand to spend on turbo setup, IC, fuel and computer, a single stocker might be a decent way to go.
I don't see any immediate reason why it wouldn't fit...it'd certainly clear the intake manifold, but the frame, I'm not sure. OIl and coolant lines are basically already present, just adapt what you already have, and block off the rear oil drain to the block. OF course your inlet and outlet piping would have to be modified.
The 2gen turbos have a 6psi spring stock in the wastegate, so use a boost controller to get your stock 10-11 back, and you'd have roughly the same power level, just a little bit of lag to deal with. BUt, if your turbos didn't work consistently before, I don't see any reason to look at this as a shitty mod. Why spend hundreds repairing the stock system or thousands on a mild single setup when you could do this for well under $300?
I think the guy's talking about JUST the turbo and manifold, not the entire block.
I actually considered this myself, and still am. I have a t04B hybrid 2gen turbo I am not using right now...
For those of us with non-functional stock twins, or who don't want to pay 100 bucks per broken solenoid to repair the stock control system, a single turbo is the obvious answer. But for those who don't have 6 grand to spend on turbo setup, IC, fuel and computer, a single stocker might be a decent way to go.
I don't see any immediate reason why it wouldn't fit...it'd certainly clear the intake manifold, but the frame, I'm not sure. OIl and coolant lines are basically already present, just adapt what you already have, and block off the rear oil drain to the block. OF course your inlet and outlet piping would have to be modified.
The 2gen turbos have a 6psi spring stock in the wastegate, so use a boost controller to get your stock 10-11 back, and you'd have roughly the same power level, just a little bit of lag to deal with. BUt, if your turbos didn't work consistently before, I don't see any reason to look at this as a shitty mod. Why spend hundreds repairing the stock system or thousands on a mild single setup when you could do this for well under $300?
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Originally posted by skunks
use fd twins should run about 150-300 bucks.
use fd twins should run about 150-300 bucks.
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