I knew that you weren't talking about a real R26B. (in reality there is just no way you can get some of those parts, e.g the ceramic coated housings)

Even if you got the parts used (4 rotors, all the side & rotor housings, seals, etc), you think someone is REALLY going to be able to make the custom parts work for what's left of your $7500? Someone is going to custom design and make an eccentric shaft that can withstand that kind of power without shearing - for peanuts? And it will actually last more than 100 miles?

Look at an AMG or RUF engine conversion. That is "right." It doesn't even look custom, and you don't have to be the guy who built it to maintain it. It's as good or better than what came from the factory in every respect. I've yet to see even a single 20b done to those levels of quality, even after spending big $$$.


I guess you are right. But it's not really accurate to say I'm against conversions - I just hate to see stuff that is done half assed. And I was merely pointing out that for a 26B, not even a R26B, you will need the full ***.

 

http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/4rotor.html

Here is someone that took two 13Bs and put them together. That would be a more feasable idea. The only problem I see is the length. His car was a race car.

 

Nothing is worth doing unless it is done full assed!

 

dont listen to these morons man ive looked into it.talk to pineappleracing.com who has made it.with core deposits itll cost u 6500 for the engine plus u can use everything off ur 13 b. water pump oil pump alt,etc.now u can also talk to grannysspeedshop.com who has done it for fun and they tell u the parts and give u step by step instruction on how to make it.plus they both would be able to tell u if it could fit and what u would need to do.but it is very possible to put a n/a motor in there. just use the old motors with high compression rotors.the expensive part though is gonna be the computer system ur gonna hafta use to make it work

 

So I guess if I suggested a twin-turbo peripheral port quad-rotor you'd say I was on crack?

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You dont need to leave California to find someone who has already done it. When I was working for Electromotive I talked to a shop out west who had already put the 4 rotor into a FD. And would you believe the guy told me that his Wife drives the car. ITS HIS WIFES CAR!! I talked to so many shops I cant remeber whos it was. But they were workin on a quad turbocharged Hemi and needed some Parts from me. I wish I could remember the shop. They do the most insane **** and I never hear about it anywhere else.

 

Will a custom 6rotor fit in my Yugo? My cousin spaz said he's done it.

 

Jokes aside. There was a guy in australia who put a custom built three rotor into a first gen. He sells these custom "20B" engines and also claims to sell a four rotor. I'm sure someone has the link, if you do please post it.

 

Hello.
The Australian 26B is going in a JC Cosmo.
See Lance Warren's www.3rotor.com

He had been an advocate for three rotor engines and has owned many cosmo's and an FD.

I am in Australia and there are a number of 20b FD's.
My friend has a 20B powered FD that produces about 450 Hp. This doesn't sound much but it only runs about 8-10psi! The torque is amazing and the engine is only running stock cosmo turbo's. It has a larger intercooler and a few other tweaks. Running more boost it has run easy 11 sec' 1/4. the beauty of this conversion is you dont have to ring the neck out of the engine and it doesn't have a peaky powerband like a 13b.
It's a very nice car to drive. Heaps of power down low as well as right to redline. Currently receiving rebuild for more power. The 20b fits quite nicely. just a sub frame has to be manufactured.

A 26B is probably a bit of overkill for an FD as you would have to re-arrange the whole front end. But if you want to do it. Go for it.

If it's not you. I am sure someone will.

Russ.

 

A single turbo 20B will make 800 hp. Does anyone think you can use more than that on the street? I don't see that you need any more power.

 

why not put in a 26B in a Viper ?

 

You also need to think of timing issues. The 26B has 12 sparkplugs.

 

If that's the case...I would just buy a damn Ferarri. ****. You could buy a house for that kind of money.

 

might be cheaper to buy the Lemans car and slap an FD body over it!

 

Yeah, the real thing runs 12, but a quasi-26B would probably run 8 (2 per rotor).

I don't know if timing would be much of an issue, you can fire the leading and trailing-trailing together, the split on stock engines is mainly for emissions.

I think that the Motec has six ignition drivers and might have two aux. outputs that could drive two more...if you really wanted you could find a way to run the split on 8 coils.

 

Yeah...I guess this type of conversion would be for the person that already has a Ferrari...and a $80,000 house.

OR...for the insane. I haven't yet decided if I am part of that group yet or not.

 

I bet engine management on 2 13b's fused together really wouldn't be that bad, you could just use 2 of the original systems or 2 of any other readily available aftermarket systems. I can't imagine any issues that would be too horribly difficult to resolve in this area of the project.

 

Why waste a good motor..?

 

You can do it yourself for about 20,000. If you can do your own work. I was thinking of doing this 2 years ago and talked with Cameron at Pettit about this extensivly..(3 rotor).

 

what is the costs for putting a 3 rotor into an fd anyway ?i know a v8 transplant doesnt cost that much

 

what about the new o3 rx-8 13renesis? anyone have any idea if this will fit? (just curious cuz it might be more reliable tho it is a little slower, and i would miss the whoosh of the turbos spooling)

 

I am toying around with the idea of trying a fake 26B swap into an FC. This thread is very informative information from members and also very filled with some ******** (no names mentioned)

A pineapple racing "26b" core for $6500 (with core deposits). That sounds like a decent price. Does anyone know any specs about these engines from pineapple such as power output, type of porting, number of spark plugs, etc? I wonder if the eccentric shaft they use has been tested to see how much power/rpms is safe with it.

Does anyone know how much hurley engineering sells their "26B" engines for and any details about their engines?

I still think I'd rather by a custom made 4rotor eccentric shaft from Jeff Bruce (i think that's his name) in New Zealand (or is it australia) for $1350 and put the engine together myself.

 

I would guess that power on the Pineapple engine is around 400 to 600 at the flywheel (depends on the porting), unless you went turbo, then I would think the range would probably go to 700 and up at the flywheel. Just guessing though. I am sure that they could offer any type of porting that you wanted.

If you are really considering this, I would urge you to strongly consider a 20B conversion. For the FC, this has been done "many" times and there is a relatively large support group for it on this forum. For a "26B" conversion, you would be on your own, developing new parts (subframe and other support structures).

The Hurley engine is not a "26B", that is a custom four rotor. That "Quad" rotor has more displacement (about 3.5 L), but looks to be smaller (150lbs). It RPM range is higher and torque is lower than a "26B". Looks like it was designed for a drag bike.

 

I think a custom 4rotor based on 12A rotors and housings would be a better fit for a FD shure you give up 200cc displacment (still 400cc more than a 20B) but the engine would significantly shorter. With the e shaft also being shorter it should be eaiser to build one strong enough to handle the power - with two mid sized turbos @ 8-10psi 500hp should be an easy target, shoot even NA w/ large street ports should get you 350hp

 

my bad

good point !