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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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13b rebuild... just cant work out what ive done wrong! :(

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i posted last week about my problem with my fd. i have taken the engine out and rebuilt it. i have nevr touched one of these before so when i told people they thought i was crazy. i have done it and got the engine back in the car. one problem. theres no fuel getting into the engine. there are 3 pipes ( 2 x fuel in; 1 x fuel return) the 2 which have fuel in do in fact have fuel in. but then thats it.

i think it is something to do with the injectors. i pulled a plug out and it is just bone dry, no fuel at all.

there are 2 injectors, i have taken the plugs off and tried to see if theres a pulse which i think there is; but only very slight. either 0.1 or 0.01 mili volts and changing to .2 or .02; cant remember now.

also, i dont know what they are but there are two banjo's, one to the left and one to the right of the injector unit. they have a wire on each which goes down to the area under the front corner of the turbo pack. they also have a small metal pipe coming out of the top which a pipe is obviosly ment to fit over.

i have checked all fuses and they are all fine.

i have been doing this for a whole week non stop and i am at my limit.

please can any one help, i am just about top admit defeat, does anyone know what to do?

thank you in advance for any help you give me.

Oscar
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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when i said pulled a plug out, i ment a spark plug and it was bone dry.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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so your fp is getting power and you are getting fuel pressure? how did you remove the engine? did you leave the harness in the car or take it with the engine? there are 3 hard lines off the engine side 1 is the feed, 1 is the return, 1 goes to the evap canister. are you sure they are right? any mods?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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there are no mods. i took the loom with the engine and i am pretty shore the 3 fuel pipes are correct. the top one(~ return) ; the bottom two, one is longer than the other so i pretty sure the longer one goes further away.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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there are no mods. i took the loom with the engine and i am pretty shore the 3 fuel pipes are correct. the top one(~ return) ; the bottom two, one is longer than the other so i pretty sure the longer one goes further away.
I hate to tell you this but, looking down from the top, the top line goes to the charcoal cannister, and should be connected to a small cylindrical plastic catch tank right below the intake elbow. Standing on the driver side, the lower right is the return line, the lower left is the feed line.

And by the way, there are 4 injectors not 2. The other lines you are referring to (banjo bolts, thin plastic lines) are the oil injector lines.

If everything is hooked up correctly when the key is turned (to on, not crank)you should be able to hear the fuel pump priming.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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the fuel pump is definatly working. its somthing to do this the pipes on the engine. i am 100% positive i have the fuel lines into the engine correct. im sure is something to do with the injectors, but not too sure. ok, my mistake about the number of injectors. what else could be the problem?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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If everything is hooked up correctly, you should still cycle the key on and off a few times to prime the fuel system. I do this even after replacing a fuel filter.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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borrow or buy a noid light. it is a tool that will plug into the injector harness and flash a light if it is getting a signal pulse. you can use a good quality high impedence test light also. connect one end to the neg terminal and have some one crank the car while you probe the injector harness. you should get a steady light on one terminal only. then connect the test light to the pos battery terminal and probe the other side of the injector harness. when the car is cranked the light will flicker as the computer supplies and removes the ground. if this is ok and you have fuel pressure the injectors may be bad. if this test fails look into the wiring and fuses ecu etc... sorry i dont remember which color is which for the crank sensors. is the gap between the sensors and the crank pully in spec? does the tach move while cranking?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by oscy
also, i dont know what they are but there are two banjo's, one to the left and one to the right of the injector unit. they have a wire on each which goes down to the area under the front corner of the turbo pack. they also have a small metal pipe coming out of the top which a pipe is obviosly ment to fit over.
Oscar
Trex already touched on it, but these are your oil injectors that receive oil from the oil metering pump. A vacuum line attaches to the top of these injectors. Are the nipples on the top open? If so, that is one problem right there. This would not stop the car from starting, but I would correct this immediately. Find a vacuum source, and T it to both oil injectors.
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