11's with $1100
 

there is a local rotary guy who has been trying to get me to run his setup for some time now which includes all e-bay and no name parts. well im not one for no name parts so i kept blowing him off until i saw how he ran at the track!
His setup includes a hks fcon, e-bay intercooler, turbo manifold and a no name turbo, t3/t4 that came with an external waste gate.
well he was pulling 1.7-1.8 60's on slicks and running 11.40's on 16-17psi. he has all of 1100 into his setup. and it still has the spool time of the stock twins.
the reason he went with this setup is because his stock twins ... well need i go further.

Anyways i was wondering if anyone else is running this simalar kind of setup and what kind of luck people are having with it because from what i have always heard the t3 side is way too small for a 13b.

It's definitely not hard to go fast on the cheap with a turbo car. My concern would be with the longevity of the setup - the FCON wasn't set up for that turbo.

I'd also be concerned with the durability of the components and maintenance. Hacked-in turbo and intercooler setups usually prove to be a BITCH to work around, Ebay manifolds frequently crack and leak, etc.

But, it is impressive. There's also a line between buying *cheap* and buying *smart*.

Dale

don't rule out the driver from the equation. i bet if i tried it in his car, i'd be doing 13s :)

i always love seeing the people who do more with less :)

but i'd be concerned with the longevity too.

cheap, fast, reliable

pick two

you can have all 3 if you know what you're doing.

my concern was durability too but he has been running this setup for about 6 months now and the only problem he has had is when he hoovered a rock in the turbo. so he just replaced it with one from garret.
for the price it doesnt seam too bad. if somthing does brake its cheap to fix :) just my $0.02

i pick cheap and reliable :bigthumb:

Um...replacing a Garrett turbo is a "cheap" fix?

i get all 3 :D

well, if he was running a no name turbo off ebay, it was probably a XS Power turbo, and I bet that wasent a pebble that damaged the turbo, it probably exploded all by it's self

I agree with Rynberg.
This reminds me of a quote that a friend of mine has (He is a custom home builder).
"Look at it as a Holy Trinity.......You can have it look good; You can have it quickly; and finally, You can have it inexpensive. You'll get 2 but not all three".

1. Running 11.4s requires over 400 rwhp.

2. There is NO FUCKING WAY a generic single with an OBX manifold (or similar) is making over 400 rwhp and has anywhere NEAR the spool time of twins. Maybe if they are non-sequential twins. With a pre-cat and stock cat.

3. He doesn't have just $1100 into that. He also must have a downpipe, midpipe, exhaust, upgraded injectors, and fuel pump. At a MINIMUM. Not to mention the slicks on a 2nd set of wheels. Or what about tuning?

4. And all of this is tuned with an F-con?

I don't buy it.

ooooooooooooooooo thats a bad quote

dude i have seen people in PUERTO RICO do 11s with stock turbos

the record on stock turbos in the high 10's. $1100 for all that i'm calling B.S.

well yeah $1100 is kinda wrong

the manifold is like 150
the turbo is 400
the f-con is around 300
wastegate 150
intercooler 200
not including the hose or clamps

=$1200

also not including:
dp
mp
catback
injectors
fuel pump
tuning

I'm sure the car is a POS. I can't believe it has lasted 6 months, there's no way.

no no no. he replaced the turbine on the no name turbo with a garret turbin.

if it sucked a rock, it'd be the compressor that got replaced.

ya your correct it would be the compressor but you knew what i was talking about.....
at first i was saying all the same things you guys are but for what it is it will run!
if you think about it even if you broke somthing it would be cheap to fix it. say the manifold started leaking $100-150 fix and so on.

i get it.. i've been known to do more with less, but that kind of performance for that budget impresses even me. i'm curious to see what the story is with the tuning and what gas it's burning--stuff like that.

i will find out more for you guys and get back to you. he owns a shop here in town and i have to swing past there later today anyways so ill let you guys know.

If I had to do it.....

Used Pettit Unlimited: $300
Used Downpipe: $100
Cutout: $50
Custom Intake: $100
Clutch: ????
Slicks: $300
Bleeder Valve: $10

Set her at 15 lbs and let it rip ;)

let it rip the apexs right off the rotor when your injectors hit 100% :)