I think that sounds like a damn good showing for an FD with your mods. The SC Cobras are beasts. Nearly hanging with one without moderate mods is pretty nice.

-Max

 

2.76 pulley = boost controller and more boost ($80)
Steeda CAI = cold air ($200)
Accufab TB = N/A
LFP Heat Exchanger = Intercooler ($1200)
Magnaflow catted x-pipe, catback = full exhaust ($700)
Predator custom tune by RWTD = ECU ($550)

11s at 117 ish aren't a problem with these mods on an FD. The mods may cost a tad more, but the nature of the beast is the same -full exhaust, good tuning and a few goodies and FI cars really do well.

 

I got my FD to run 12.6 on 225 stock replacement tires and 11.7 with drag radials with:
Custom 3" Exhaust, $300 (Twice as expensive with a mustang being as you would want true duals)
Intake $100
Greddy 2 Row Intercooler Kit $800
Apex Power FC ECU came with my car but $1000 (has a built in boost controller)
850CC primaries/fuel pump $300

so $2500 + dyno tuning

There are a few more peices you might want to purchase but aren't necessarily needed.

 

i got more than that except the IC

 

Nice Job Justin, You finally raced that guy. Now get your fricken PFC tuned, and bolt that FMIC on and do it again!

 

My parents have an '03 Lightning which has a similar engine setup to the Cobra. The SC sounds like a cross between a trumpet and a f-ed up turbo.

Dad has a much smaller Eaton SC in his Miata. It sounds pretty damn cool... a Mad Max, jet-like shearing whine. The short gearing of the Miata lets the SC whine/rpms wind up quickly, but the truck's gearing keeps a more constant tone, which lends to its trumpet-like quality.

edit: A similar table of mods & HP gains for latemodel Cobra's & Lightnings. http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...ngTechTips.pdf

 

oops

 

i eat them for breakfast
:-)

Street Ported 13b engine

2002 skyline GTR34 FMIC

Koyo Rad

Hard piping

Factory twin turbo Non-Seq setup---17lbs

Unorthodox lightweight engine pulleys

Blitz turbo intake {cold air conversion in the making}

Intake Heat shield

Heat wrapped Downpipe

Heat wrapped Midpipe

HKS SQOV blowoff valve with original tip

Stock Muffler

HKS type-1 turbo timer

PowerFC ECU



Braking System-

Axxis ultimate X brake pads rear and front

Drilled and Vented front and rear brake rotors

 

Add the IC, about 3psi, and a good dyno tune and you'll be there. There's no reason a healthy FD with full bolt ons and 15 psi shouldn't make 360 SAE rwhp.

 

Exactamente!!

 

So you can find these used 03 04 Cobras for $15,000?



You can't? Why do we care if it only takes $2500 in mods then?

Buy an FD with a blown motor for $10k and add over $30,000 in mods to it. Now go race your friend with the Cobra and (ONLY) $2500 in mods. You've both spent the same amount. How did the race go?

Buy a beat up Turbo Regal for $5000 and put $35,000 in mods blah blah. Apples to Apples, who cares what the mods cost when the cars aren't anywhere near the same price right now?

Cobras sound like really neat cars but it's a silly comparo.

 

it is about the price of the mods. i think the estimates up there were a little conservative considering an exhaust is going to be more in the range of $200-250 DP, $400-500 high flow cat, and $600-1000 for a cat back.

i can appreciate how fast your car is icemaster. it is a lot faster than mine right now, but i think you missed the point of my post; the point is that the guy i was talking about is running 11.8 on BFGoodrich street tires with those mods. which means he could easily hit low 11s or even 10s on slicks.

i am proud of everyone coming to the defense of the FD. i would rather drive a slow FD than a fast mustang.
However, my point still stands.

You can't argue with ETs.

 

Good posting. We are often defensive and quick to jump in and trash this or that car. We forget that there are numbers and there is taste. The aesthetics are truely inarguable. Its like arguing chocolate vs vanilla. However, when we sit and do the numbers its clear that the Mustang can make more gains with less money than our rare rotary beasts. And so what? No one is saying that makes it a "better" car.

 

exactly. my brother is talking about getting an 04 cobra. i keep trying to talk him out of it, i keep telling him HP isn't everything, that you have to love the way your car looks and feels. i think he might be looking into a 350z now(not my favorite, but i like it more than the style of mustangs) for me the look and feel of the FD is worth more than a half second or whatever on the 1/4 mile.

 

I think spending $235 for a downpipe , another $235 for a Midpipe, and $300-$700 for a catback is just a little ridiculous. You can pick up mandrel bent 3" aluminized steel for about $7-$10/foot and just about any exhaust shop or performance shop can weld it on for you, get a universal turbo 3in/out muffler for $80 and you have your whole exhaust for $180 + 1-3hrs labor.

 

i agree with this reply 150%!!!! there's too many factors involved in the outcome of a street race. for me it's the tires and the driver that matters the most regardless if you have a 50hp or a 500hp car.

taking it to the track is a more controlled environment, giving the driver and the car more opportunity to figure out where to improve.

besides that comment, the cobras, z06's, etc... are the best cars to test your driving skillz against... that's why when i go to the track i race on the domestic lane and not the imports lane.

don't sweat it - that was a good run - i figure your car is probably running 13.0 to 13.5 if he took you by a car. He's probably running mid to high 12's, but you'll never know unless you take yourself out to the track.


see ya,

car 53

 

thats what i was also thinking high 12's because he had me 1 car by 120mph and we both know thats alot further than the 1/4 mile. im happy on how my car did and i have no complaints.

ill get my IC and tuned he is fucked.

 

Every V8 I race it seems that they get me until 3rd, then I pull hard. I surprised that you got him in 1st and 2nd due to his high torque and hp. Also it depends on how good his skills are off the line.

 

well i do know how to drive my car, thats why i got him in 1st and 2nd..... befor i raced him i thought that he would get me in 1st and 2nd, but when i was infront of him i thought that i could get anothre car on him during 3rd gear.
mabey i wasn't hitting full boost. i need to get a datalogit.

 

The money comparisons are stupid and can go on forever with thousands of scenarios.

The bottom line is it is about goals and that goes for any car. Fd's are gorgeous, handle great, brake great, did i say gorgeous, and pretty quick......but once you start trying to make your Fd run low 11's consistantly or my favorite trap 125 -130mph it becomes grossly unreliable.

Others may argue that "grossly unreliable" part, but go read the 3rd gen section and come back to me on that.

A couple of mods tune your PFC & intercooler and you'll be right there with him with some decent reliability. Just remember Cobra's, Vette's, Camaro's can all run 10's@130mph on pump gas with the right mods. Oh and Supra's ...too.

Fd's are not the best choice for going fast in a straight line in a street car set up...race only is totally different.

Good Luck and have fun.

 

Supras running 10's on pump gas? There are only a couple that have even run 11's on the stock turbos. Supras can't run much more than 15psi so I doubt there are very many if any running 10's on pump gas. There aren't even very many running 10's anyways.

 

well, aren't we bragging on ourselves? oh, the arrogance of youth All i am gonna say is, that it is very unlikely that you were blessed with some innate driving talent, that none of the rest of us were fortunate enough to receive. Take it to the track before you make that claim. I don't know if you do or you don't have the skills you claim, but "i know how to drive my car" is a very strong claim either way. 60' times tell the true story.

 

Icemastr....there are not many supra's that go to the track that run 10's on pump gas because they don't run pump gas.

T6 rocket ran a 9.98@136 on a 16' drag radial he is a ex dsm guy.

Jesus' supra ran a 11.1@130 on pump street tires...on slicks it would have been 10's.

Your right though. I should have said Supra's can run 10's reliably, but usually are on race gas.

 

will you shut up alreadfy....damn you are annoying

 

damn that hurt my feelings and it wasn't even aimed at me.