Great looking prototype! I hope they make it! |
If this article has any truth to it I really hope it doesn't get made. The RX-7 is supposed to compete with Japans best not be downgraded to the likes of the FRS. If Mazda can no longer compete in a class this car deserves that's fine, but don't tarnish the legacy the 7 has already established.
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Originally Posted by 93rx74lyfe
(Post 11275824)
If this article has any truth to it I really hope it doesn't get made. The RX-7 is supposed to compete with Japans best not be downgraded to the likes of the FRS. If Mazda can no longer compete in a class this car deserves that's fine, but don't tarnish the legacy the 7 has already established.
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MSRP of a '93 base: $32,000
In today's dollars: $51,000 If the RX-7 is priced the same as it was, that means that it would be competing price-wise with the following "sports" cars: Corvette 335i Z4 Shelby GT500 Challenger SRT8 Camaro ZL1 S4 S5 TTS (Or even a TT-RS after discounts) Cayman SLK And probably a few others. Toyota's got it's Supra coming out, and likely an MR2 as well. There's rumors of a 240Z revival. Who knows, Nissan may decide to compete in this arena as well. I doubt Mitsubishi will revive the 3000GT, but it's a possibility. With the base model 'Vette being such a good deal, Mazda's going to have to pull something out of their rear to really seat themselves in the market. Most folks who can afford a $50K car aren't looking for a "Jap Trap". They want German, or they want American. Of course, these are the old farts of today. Who knows what the old farts of tomorrow will want! As for me, well... Let's just say I've got a few grand in the RX7 account so far, and a couple years to bring that number up! |
Yup, the sticker on my car (which I have someplace) was $38,600. For $60k, Mazda could build a damned nice car if they cared to. Would someone buy a $60k Mazda? Well, they'll buy $75k Nissans and Chevys. It's just gotta be good.
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I see the future rx7 being priced not too much higher than the last fd. Remember this will be na and cheaper to produce. Mazda knows they can't go too heavy on price considering the poor reliability rep the rx8 left us. Also, this car could very well be here sooner than you think. Newer models always come out a few months before the actual new year hit. So we could very well be seeing these in show rooms in early fall of 2016. 2013's came out months ago and it's still 2012.
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Originally Posted by TeeJayHoward
(Post 11285188)
MSRP of a '93 base: $32,000
In today's dollars: $51,000 If the RX-7 is priced the same as it was, that means that it would be competing price-wise with the following "sports" cars: Corvette 335i Z4 Shelby GT500 Challenger SRT8 Camaro ZL1 S4 S5 TTS (Or even a TT-RS after discounts) Cayman SLK And probably a few others. Toyota's got it's Supra coming out, and likely an MR2 as well. There's rumors of a 240Z revival. Who knows, Nissan may decide to compete in this arena as well. I doubt Mitsubishi will revive the 3000GT, but it's a possibility. With the base model 'Vette being such a good deal, Mazda's going to have to pull something out of their rear to really seat themselves in the market. Most folks who can afford a $50K car aren't looking for a "Jap Trap". They want German, or they want American. Of course, these are the old farts of today. Who knows what the old farts of tomorrow will want! As for me, well... Let's just say I've got a few grand in the RX7 account so far, and a couple years to bring that number up! Corvette - Cheap Fast and Brash. 'Merica! 335i - Complex and brutal. Refined and expensive to maintain. Douches Z4 - See above only with a lot less trunk space. Shelby GT500 - Holy shit who needs that power? Ford and Retro-style lovers. Camaro ZL1 - "I'm sorry I backed into you ma'am. I swear I couldn't see you and the throttle is very touchy." Chevy Lovers Challenger SRT8 - Heavy and cool. More mature of the muscle cars. S4 - "I live in the snow belt so I need AWD. Also I hate BMW." S5 - See above except without friends or kids. TTS - See above only exept female. Cayman - Incredible car. Still not a 911 though. "Don't call it a Boxster!" SLK - Classy and sleek. Female favored because tries to be always in the middle and not super special. I imagine the Rx-9 would be something like: RX-9 - "OMG racecar!" "No its not a 4 cylinder" |
My dream is that Mazda makes two rotary powered vehicles. Rx7 of course and bring back a 3 rotor Cosmo sport sedan. Mazda really needs aluxury sports sedan condender. I dont think this is too far fetched. If this new cat technology works as well as Mazda claims it will, then the rotary could easy live in multiple platforms once again.
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Hmmm i thought it was gonna be called the rx9
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I just had to bring this chop over from the new furture vehicles lounge. This is what could be the next Cosmos/Rx9. Like I said, Mazda sticks a 3 rotor in something like this and a ton of luxury im sold.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1297323014 |
Sign me up! That looks ridiculously awesome. What's with the vents on the rear window? Also if the side vents were flipped then it would be more like a FD remake.
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Originally Posted by t-von
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I just had to bring this chop over from the new furture vehicles lounge. This is what could be the next Cosmos/Rx9. Like I said, Mazda sticks a 3 rotor in something like this and a ton of luxury im sold.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1297323014 Interesting though, I'd definitely get myself one if it looks somewhat close to this with rotary under the hood. -AzEKnightz |
I don't care the styling/specs...I'm buying the next-gen RX-7 if it happens...and if I can afford it. LOL
If Mazda continues along the route they are going with car styling, I'm OK with that. |
Originally Posted by bufferovrflo
(Post 11287364)
Sign me up! That looks ridiculously awesome. What's with the vents on the rear window? Also if the side vents were flipped then it would be more like a FD remake.
This isn't an actual Mazda concept. This is a shortened photoshoped version of the 4 door Shinari concept from 2010. Mazda RX-9 Concept by ~BramDC on deviantART I just was wowed by what this guy was able to create and thought to myself..Mazda needs to hire this guy and build that shit as is! |
so the new 2017 fd gona look just like the fd now or its gona have different look ?
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Originally Posted by diehardrotary
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so the new 2017 fd gona look just like the fd now or its gona have different look ?
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Originally Posted by GoRacer
(Post 11274131)
It should be a 3-rotor with electric PS and capacitors for low end torque. I'm not sure how they will improve the MPG or pass the newest emissions in 2015 (I think it is).
<SNIP> :-) neil |
Hopefully this isn't another tease. We're already supposed to be driving 4th Gen Rx7's right now lol
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just buy an FD. a next gen wont make you happy. the FRS would be a good market place for the rx7. the FD was never a supercar. Mazda already has a flagship super(race lol) car its the 787. The RX8 is an awesome car and they race it.
i agree with Mazda's SkyActiv business strategy. by 2017, I'll be buying a used FRS with power mods on the cheap. or ill just put a 13BTT in it ;) |
The blue car looks the best in my opinion. It looks light and quick but not brute force. Anybody remember "lighting in a world of thunder?" Mazda will stick with that approach.
A future RX-7 will be relatively inexpensive and probably start around 35k. The high cost is a large reason the FD, 300zx, Supra left the market. The only reason the 3000GT lasted so long is because they had FWD, n/a version. Mazda needs to reach the masses more than satisfy those of us wanting a GTR or Z06 competitor. The FD was possible because Mazda sold many many thousands of FB, FC and Miata. Ultimately they need to sell a lot of them whether it's called the RX-7 or RX-9. If they try to compete with current supercars we'll have another expensive, low volume, misunderstood car with a 3-4 year production run. It will be simple, light, and pure. N/A saves some big money. I would expect it's performance to be close to, the same as or only slightly better than the FD and I would be fine with that. I'd gladly pay 40k for a new, good looking, simplified, safe rotary sports car. The FD performance is still excellent. |
The real question everyone is missing...who will be the first person to crash one? They can be famous like the FRS dorifto kid.
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Originally Posted by AzEKnightz
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mmm this indeed looks sexy. This represent a shorter version of the vette! The lines also somewhat look like the new camaro @ the rear quarter panel area.
Interesting though, I'd definitely get myself one if it looks somewhat close to this with rotary under the hood. -AzEKnightz |
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